also, im not really sure if HoP commands enough to really be separated, and I actually do try to be fairly actively in cargo when I am HoP. Not my problem a lot of hops literally just play for AA while also being too meek and terrified to actually roll captain
While it sounds good on the surface, you have to consider how it affects different gamemodes. E.g. in Revolution, you can no longer sneakily secure Cargo early into the round - the QM will 100% scream on comms.
Also, the QM would finally have the legitimacy he would need to secede. Cargonia would become even more stale than ever.
Would the QM get an ID console? Where would he be in the chain of command? Would he be a Cult target?
I think this is because HoP’s have other priorities like access changing and the Service department, also all of the QM’s duties are in the Cargo Bay and the mining base.
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Same goes for literally any other department, doesn’t it? Scientists don’t need supervision to do science, Engineering will be done even when there is no CE around et cetera.
HoPs power structure is bloated and HoP can not effectively supervise all of these jobs.
Please no.
The QM is basically a pseudohead similar to how the Warden and Clown are.
To be more clear with it, we’ll utilize a simple military structure despite SS13 not being a military station. It helps be make my point more clear.
Captain/Clown - Your Commanding Officer.
HOS - Your most Senior Enlisted Personnel.
HOP - Your XO. If we go by ranks entirely HOP is a Lieutenant.
RD,CE,CMO - All are Staff Enlisted.
QM - Junior NCO. While he has some control and power, he is on the lower rung overall and generally told supervise and managed rather than actively direct.
Now this is a game, ANYONE can be these jobs with ease and no real reason. However it is easier to become the QM because he has no responsibility outside of cargo.
I remember typing about Warden, but I forgot to add him back.
Warden is a special case in that he can literally tell anyone but the HOS to fuck off from the armory. HOP or Captain enters? He can detain them. Oversees Gulags,Perma, and executons. Can arrest,search or otherwise validhunt. Watches over the armory.
Captain > HOP > HOS > Warden > Other Heads.
More so because if there is no HOS, then Warden is HOS. If HOS is dead,gibbed or otherwise incapable of doing their job, they become HOS or acting HOS.
I can see RD being considered higher tier than other heads due their relationship with the AI and how often science can fuck a round over.
Also the fact that the QM having little authority makes him no better than a shop manager that gets ridiculed by every other departments. It is entirely possible to play a round ignoring half of service and cargo.
The Hop only takes over service and cargo departments when they are understaffed, otherwise they are just sub-captains. Hell if mining is understaffed then science becomes miners.
I think the main reason QM isn’t a head is for gameplay reasons. Revs would have a chance to convert one of the most influential person in the gamemode, tot qm can cause a LOT of chaos and letting qm be an antag just adds quite a lot to the round thanks to the literal armory a QM can build that outshines even sec. Although with that said I do agree with the HoP changes, HoP is literally disregarded in service departments because nobody gives a shit about orders and just makes their own stuff. Not to mention service comms looks so much like common that people always mixes it up.
QM being a head would literally make all Rev rounds trivial as fuck. Instead of sec and command having to worry about cargo building an armory to rival their own, they just need to order mindshields. It would also be a way of preventing shenanigans from happening because as a head, the QM would be held to a higher standard in terms of rule enforcement.
There is literally no downside to the QM being a head.
