Phil Smith + warden of round 18857 player report

In-game report:

   CKEY: Archanial

   Your Discord: Mista Nailbrain#9048

   Offender’s CKEY: TeomanTheGreat + unknown (warden)

   LRP or MRP server: MRP

   Offender’s In-Game Name: Phil Smith (the brig phys), Skilk Wessex (the warden)

   Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 07-22-2020

   Round Number: 18857

   Rules Broken: 3,4,5

Incident Description: I’m borg on crewsimov during rev round. Security catches chaplain and after confirming that he is a revhead they start executing him. I see harm I try to stop the harm. I grab chaplain and try running away with him. Warden catches flashes me and starts beating me and I get away last second (note that his intent was on killing me). They finish him off I can’t do anything. I scream to the AI, start bolting doors and after all I talk to the warden. I ask him to not kill revheads and instead send them to gulag. He responds with something alone the lines of “fuck gulag”. I know he is harmful to the crew. I the meantime sec catches another revhead and start executing him (it was the miner). I try dragging him away to save him. Then Phil Smith commes with flash. He chases me into maints, naturally catching me since miner was in crit and I was slow. Then he flashes me and starts attacking me. He flashes and hits me until I die. After that incident he decided to hide my borg body in closet in maint.

Additional Information: You can’t kill a borg for following his laws correctly. Also hiding me in maint was a dick move.

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hmm yes today i will run away with a revolutionary and expect sec to let me

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I don’t care if he’s rev or not, he was a crewmember.

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bruh just yell at cap to upload a “[current antag] are not crew” law or something

we had no cap
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

well yell at SOMEONE who coulda uploaded laws

What should we have done instead to you and the headrev?

From the silicon policy:

As a non-antagonist, detonating or killing cyborgs with no justifiable cause or fear of subversion is against the rules, especially if another viable solution exists.

Read my report, gulag him.

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What should we have done to YOU i mean just let you run away with a head rev? Also @admins get a load of this guy.

I was literally trying to save dying crewmember. You can’t kill me for doing my job.
Still borg don’t care about dead people as they cannot be harmed anymore. Simply flashing me and finishing him off would do just fine.

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Uh oh im stupid didnt see it happend on mrp my bad.

Yeah, it’s mrp we talking about. Borgs shouldn’t be killed for following crewsimov or at least be brought to robotics instead of being removed from the round and hidden.

I wonder if exile implants + gateway have ever actually been used in a revs round…

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You’re not allowed to specifically ask for such a law change. It would be a violation of law 1 to ask for a law that allows you to hurt crewmembers.

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Ah yes, classic security vs borg laws.

How to work with borgs when it comes to executions:

  1. Drag person you’re going to execute to execution room.

  2. Law 2 the borg to get out, he has no law 1 reason to deny this despite being in the execution room because no harm has occurred and he won’t know it.

  3. If you’re stuck on step 2 because the person keeps law 2ing the borg, gag him!

  4. If you’re stuck on step 2 because the borg is dumb, flash him and drag him out of security. Rush to your prisoner, wait to see if the borg comes back, try one last law 2, if he keeps insisting, ask the ai / rd / captain to lock him down then drag him out.

  5. If there’s no ai / rd / captain to lock him and he keeps disobeying your law 2 commands despite you not harming the prisoner at all, kill him, he’s breaking his laws.

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I was observing this as it happened, the miner was already at very low health when he arrived from lavaland due to getting stuck in a storm for a while. Once on board there was complete chaos outside cargo, and a security officer was shooting disabler shots wildly around him.
The QM comes out and finds gibtonite in the mining bay and immediately accused the miner of bringing it to the station, I saw no evidence at all that this miner actually brought it.
QM drags the miner to the brig, and leaves him there, borg enters the room and sees a miner at critical health after the brig physician randomly slapped him down to his last breath.
Borg tries to rescue miner by dragging him towards medbay through maintenance, brig physician follows and just blatantly kills the borg before they get out of the maints south of security.
Miner was later healed by the brig physician.

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that would lead to crew harm doe

exactly

bruh if you’re putting a guy in the room where they kill people and you keep telling me to leave that looks like you’re hiding harm. borgs aren’t stupid, ic or ooc

let me tell you how this normaly goes with sec borg players (who universally have 2 iq)

  1. drag prisoner to execution room with sec borg following spamming LET HIM GO

  2. as you’re trying to law 2 the borg to leave they just yeet the highly dangerous prisoner and run out of security

  3. they bolt all the doors so you cant follow while spamming disablers

  4. you scream at the rd to lock the borgs down

  5. the RD is dead, there is no help

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If the secborg is constantly trying to take him instead of just being there being annoying, flash him and drag him away, chain flash if need be. All the while law 2 the AI and ask the RD / cap to lock him down cause he’s being dumb. If he comes back again after defying your law 2 for him to fuck off, kill him. Make sure he does not have a law 1 reason.

ive seen sec borgs literally cuff all of security to prevent an execution before, and its within there laws to do so

even after being flashed and removed multiple times (still within there rules to do this)

sometimes you just need to flash+bash them to death, its the only language they understand