The only issue with shoving or pulling is nearly all the time they’ll just walk out of it because gamer being gamer, “dont tell me what to do” attitude instead of a roleplay “you’re being guided out” kinda thing
mhm, thats Meta station, just out of view to the south is 2 other private surgery rooms. Webmap doesnt want to work but TG’s wiki has images of all the stations on their pages if you want to browse them.
Well, people having conversations on medbay can be annoying, even tho I never had any problem with it. I wouldn’t recommend trying to get people out of medbay just so you can grab attention of your coworkers easier, especially because that implies your coworkers gave permission to those people.
What I would recommend in that situation is simply do your work alone, and keep calm. You can quickly revive people if you concentrate and do your best
Also, non related thing; I don’t recommend using stasis beds. They’re meant to be used specifically for patients who are alive and on crit due tô oxygen or toxins damage, If they’re dead stasis beds will make revival harder, if they’re alive and not on critical condition then just mend them and if they’re alive and on crit due to injuries give them medicine to stabilize em then you can mend the rest of the damage with surgery. The reason we use it for oxygen or toxins is because those can’t be stabilized quickly
I thought stasis beds somewhat “paused” their death timer due to putting them in stasis then prolonging the time you can take to operate on them?
Dont recall where I read / heard it but its been my go to practice for the timebeing so I definitely learned it somewhere 
Edit: found it on the wiki, if they’re dead it pauses their defib timer. It also produces the same success rate (80%) as the operating table in terms of operating success.
Your death timer is determined by oxygen damage or blood loss, if you go out of crit up stop taking natural oxygen damage, meaning the timer stops. How do you get people out of crit? Mending, and mending is usually slower on stasis beds. and you stop blood loss with gauze
About that wiki thing, yeah, they do that, but that’s rarely relevant to revival. It’s faster to print a hearth then do organ replacement for rotten heart than do mending on basic instead of expert. So you need to place a monitor on the stasis bed; I’m not sure if they work together or not, I remember they being a weird match, I haven’t used stasis beds enough to figure that yet
The only issue I’ve encountered with operating computers if is there is a bed on either side. It links to one but not the other even when the bed says its linked. Same with dual operating tables. I always make it so the operating table touches one bed and vice versa. Had 0 issues with it personally.
I’m not fantastic at medbay and enjoy learning it, so honestly the stasis beds freezing their defib timer is a life changer
Very well, I guess they have their utility then!
I think the only downside is a couple surgeries that cant be done on stasis. Brain surgery is coming to mind but its been a while.
Formaldehyde (found in small doses in epi pens) will also stop (or atleast slow) organ decay if you need to move them off stasis while dead, unsure about defib timer tho.
If you want beds and computers in a line, try to put two comps or beds against each other, or build them one set at a time so they link properly.
It should link to both, but it will only display steps for one. At least that’s how I’m pretty sure it works. It’s enough for me to avoid double link setups, since the materials needed for a mere computer are insignificant. I always sigh when I see a a bunch of tables/units around a single computer because of this.
Personally, while getting into medbay or even loitering there when you’re injured should be tolerable, being there while not injured or afflicted is certified lameo.
Things you could be doing other than loitering med.
Engineers, go patch holes in the station, there are some, don’t lie to yourself, or monitor the alerts console while talking smack over coms
Seccies, EITHER GO TO YOUR POST OR GO PATROL, DO NOT LET ME CATCH YOU SLACKIN!
Tell your friends you’re doing a maint sweep, get a friend to accompany you!
Sci, this is THE autism fort, if you don’t know what you’re doing, why did you sign up?
Service and Cargo, produce, purchase and collaborate on supplying top tier consumer goods like mixed drinks, foods and stuff like grills and carpet.
Remember that good spreads of food and drink can get various folks to sit around and talk about whatever.
Could, and should, just epi them to stop organ decay. If the heart is fucked then do a bypass operation.
The explorer trying to get medical supplies at roundstart only to be met with a belligerent phalanx of angry saw wielding doctors:
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While we are on the topic of surgery steps, time for more nerdy medical rants. Did you know almost all surgeries have the same steps as organ manipulation, just with some minor variations? You can guess steps for a surgery and just get it wrong one or two times if you’re good.
Organ Manipulation
- Scalpel (almost every surgery I’ve ever tried starts with a scalpel).
- Retractor (most surgeries have this step, commonly as the second step and rarely as the third step).
- Saw (only for head or torso surgeries, causes brute damage when successful. You can guess whether or not a surgery involves sawing. Do you need to bypass the patient’s skeletal structure to perform the surgery? If yes, apply the saw after the retractor. If no, skip this step. There are exceptions to this rule so if you don’t know try sawing and if it doesn’t work then skip this step).
- Hemostat (the logic is: after you saw the patient’s ribcage or skull, you have to clamp their bleedings, hence why the hemostat heals some of the brute damage caused by sawing, but for some reason, it’s a common step even in surgeries that don’t use a saw. It always comes after another step, but it’s very volatile; it can come as the second, third, fourth, fifth step, and so on).
- Scalpel again (nothing much to comment on this step, it’s the last step for a good portion of the surgeries).
So let’s take an uncommon surgery and compare it to organ manipulation. These are the steps for most experimental surgeries on the torso (every except experimental dissection):
- Scalpel (same thing, most start with it).
- Retractor (same thing).
- Hemostat (not a sawing surgery, so you skip the saw).
- Scalpel again (same thing).
- Scalpel again again (special step, used for cutting intensive surgeries).
- Hands (yes, you’re going to thread people’s veins and fold their cortex with your bare hands. SS13 surgeries are simply magnificent. Most people get this wrong and try the hemostat; I don’t blame them).
See how it’s basically the same? The only confusing part is the end. I usually tend to guide new players trying medical roles to try surgeries without the monitor’s help while I guide them with some steps because knowing the steps will make you perform surgeries a lot faster than looking at the monitor every time you’re doing surgery, and the best way to learn surgery steps is by doing surgery without the monitor.
Moral of the story: there’s no moral of the story; you talked about using monitors for steps, and I was inspired to write this.
There is no shame in having the wiki pages open at all times, the computer tells you do to a thing and you just have to know what tool its looking for… the surgery page has all the steps and tools laid out so you can look up what to grab for the next step while its processing.
And yeah its kinda funny that surgeries like bypass are just the same as organ manip (if you were removing)
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To be fair, do one mission and buy an advanced medkit, there you go. Better stuff than what they normally have!
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just ask, roleplay it, dont steal ;-;
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Put in a request at chemistry or PDA a doctor, Speak with your RD and ask them to request a package of medical supplies from the CMO, create a request form and Fax it to the department!
there are a large number of ways to achive the goal of requisitioning equipment or supplies beyond the five finger discount.
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I WILL come into medbay
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