Opinions on a better atmos system

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I’ve been talking with Ike about implementing/porting a new system for Atmos, and it’s going to take a substantial bounty to get done most likely. Before I lay down the money I want to know what others think about the idea since it’s going to cause a fundamental shift in gameplay on both servers.

Current Atmos

  • Atmos is calculated tile-to-tile, which is slow and inefficient.
  • Gas does not flow or mix at all in equal pressure environments.
  • Scrubbers are nearly worthless at doing their job, since they can only pull from up to adjacent tiles
  • Likewise vents do a very very poor job of re-pressurizing rooms after they’ve been bombed and rebuilt.
  • Sudden changes in pressure have a very slowly propagating effect
Scrubbers on expanded range at work to filter plasma

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Currently if there is a hull breach, there is almost no immediate effect on the surrounding area. A bit of suction toward the breach, but there will still be breathable levels of air a few paces away from the hole indefinitely. If you take a canister with any visible gas, you can write words with it and the gas will never mix or dissapate into the surrounding area. In the event someone has opened a canister and released gas into a room, the only way to clean it is to manually take a portable scrubber over every single tile.

Proposed Atmos

  • Calculates atmos changes on a room-to-room basis
  • Exposing a room to space results in rapid de-pressurization
  • Releasing gas from a canister will cause it to rapidly mix with all exposed air instead of sluggishly creeping out of the canister
  • Scrubbers will actually work beyond a 2-tile range and be able to effectively decontaminate rooms
  • Vents will repressurize entire rooms instead of just the area around them.

It will make atmos-based sabotage much more rapid/effective, but also make clean-up an actually feasible option after the fact. Also makes exposing portions of the station to space have a much higher level of consequence, whether for good or bad (Cleaning up bad gas or just making the station less inhabitable)

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Just say you want fastmos lmao

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That’s a pretty good tl;dr for the entire post yeah lol

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since it was ike you were talking to, I’m just going to go out on a limb and say that this is very obviously going to be either c++ monstermos or a similar implementation of it

You would be correct, Monstermos is what originally caught my attention when I was first discussing options on improving our atmos. The super-sluggish atmos we have has bothered me for quite a while - specifically because of the scrubbers situation. They feel like they almost may as well not exist

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Yeah I don’t know why the post is worded the way it is, this is just a proposal to port monstermos.

Because I’d wager the average player wouldn’t know what I was talking about if I just said “Port monstermos? Y/N?”

The thread’s goal is to gauge what the rest of the server thinks about faster atmos before I slap money on something just for it to get implemented and then reverted due to mass outcry about the change.

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It’s just that it would be nice to have a link to the original PR for it as it’s a really interesting system that some people might want to look over first

god bless you ike

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so one fucked window means bye bye pressure for the whole room in a quick manner? that can go very wrong.

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It also means re-pressurizing rooms will be a lot simpler to do since Vents have the same problem as scrubbers currently - They only pump gas where they are and it takes forever to spread outward (if it ever does)

Equalized pressure in a room is only possible at roundstart right now. Once a room is exposed to space currently, there will always be low-pressure pockets in that room for the rest of the round

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yeah
like real life
:vibecheck:

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No
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so a smoothbrained greyfuck can damage a lot of people by oofing a window. NICE

And an engineer doing repairs can actually fix rooms that currently can’t be - it goes both ways :stuck_out_tongue:

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lets be honest, who would do that except for based engies

also imagine the damage on LRP, noone gives 2 fucks about the station

As long as it’s not hollywood tier explosive decompression I don’t see the issue

I was playing with my fellow cyka blyatters and they had this sytem, once i broke the window and oh boy was that fun to look at that 1000 pieces of trash went flying and killed me though.
Absolutely based if u didnt know a breach on space station fucks you, you dont just look at a breach and say wow i think im low on air /gasps/
Please add this also i saw that air scrubber, ce brought that giant piece of shit but it did nothing lmao.

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How will this affect cult tiles? They have that effect which slows the spread of gasses, so this system seems like it’d affect that

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