Is it just me or has LRP gotten a lot more murderbone-y lately? It was always fairly chaotic but I seem to recall most rounds ending without 90% of the crew being dead or the station being destroyed. These days, I keep seeing the aforementioned outcomes far more than before.
And that makes me sad, for various reasons.
Because it makes LRP’s little slogan of being a nice place to learn pathetic. A new player will likely just get obliterated for no reason by an antag or ghost spawn. This can inspire people to learn, yes, but what they end up learning is how to do the same to their agressors and repeat the cycle.
Because being dead honestly just ain’t fun, and people don’t seem to realize that or they just not give a fuck, literally being as efficient as they can in ending other people’s rounds. Objectives? Common decency? Nah time to go killing again.
Because it isn’t healthy. LRP will never be taken seriously as long as pvp is the be-all end-all. It might be surprising to hear this from me for some, but I know it to be true, no matter how cool being muh robust is.
This is not a complaint.
This is not asking for solutions either, nor do I think there’s a major enough issue for that.
This is just me getting something off of my mind. Something that has been making me reconsider what to think of the game.
Feel free to laugh at the post or support it. I welcome either.
You worded my thoughts on the server a lot better I ever could. I couldn’t find the right way to word what I meant beyond calling a hostile environment.
This in particular. “You’re valid and not my metafriend, I’m going to kill you and publicly mock you for being worse than me”
On one hand, what you’re saying is true, somewhat. There are times where there is no crisis and everything is calm. Mostly because antags are found and promptly killed by the valid hunters.
On the other hand this gameplay style has value. To get good at conflict you need a worthy opposition.
So while I think some changes are needed (mostly the ones that would force powergamers to get creative instead of grabbing all the gamer gear roundstart) I do not believe trying to force different playstyle is a good idea.
i mean im sorry but it just isn’t true, i know how to do literally every fucking job on the station (except viro fuck viro) atleast decently, because i went out and set my mind to learning it. even then, making a private server is better for learning shit anyways because you’re free from time constraints and rules (this was primarily how i learned botany)
shit on around 8 people with killer tomatoes and a toolbox lol
believe it or not, fighting in this game is more than just “duh click da spaceman LOL!”, despite the funny memes. knowledge in any area can and will help you, if you refuse to learn anything except “le tide” you will be robusted without mercy, this applies way more when you’re an antag but even if you arent it still applies. atmos knowledge? CO2 flood as ling and greentext (thats what i did last round heeyo) engineering knowledge? shit on all of sec by depressurizing it. medical knowledge? destroy people with illegal chem mixes (you guys dont even know about gib foam bruh). what im saying is, people who know this shit will destroy those who don’t, forcing you to learn more than just how 2 shove. “b-but!! thats all fighting!!!” if you can grow killer tomatoes and kill 8 people you can grow just about fucking anything, if you can CO2 flood you can fix a CO2 flood, if you understand how to depressurize you understand how to fix hull breaches and pressurize rooms, etc etc
ask literally anyone, the more you learn in each department the more ILLEGAL TECHNIQUES you will find out and preform. i found one out with joe and i still cant speak of it.
are you illiterate, i literally said i only learned botany on a private server, no other roles. because botany takes fucking ages. medical, engineering, atmos, mining, cargo, sec, etc etc, all learned on the server.
you need to open up your eyes bro work on that reading comprehension
p.s. just because something is better for something doesn’t automatically mean the other option is a god awful pile of garbage. just thought you should know that lol!
p.s. 2: your own private server where you
have access to admin commands
can not die
no time constraints
no repercussions for any actions
can invite your friends and only your friends, no griefing randos
will ALWAYS be a better learning environment then any fucking server. so according to your own logic, every server on the face of this planet is bad for learning, because private servers are better. l o l that’s too funny
Not to be rude bools but you didn’t learn any of those skills by getting killed. The most you could possibly squeeze out is that you got more motivation to bone by using your skills after dying to other players.
The hilarious part is the conclusion from this: “Go learn on a private server then go kill people on LRP.”
In other news, exactly what I 'm talking about - LRP not acutally being friendly to new players and slowly becoming a murderhole.
But wait. Why am I talking about my original points? After all, they had nothing to do with your posts. It’s almost like you just wanted to brag and call people bad…no, there’s no way that’s true. As if you would reply to my post with something that doesn’t actually respond to anything it adresses. Like that would ever happen.
Pfft.
It’s no good trying to be mister edgy robust lrp man when you’re also being a massive shitter. Please stop.
this is fucking pointless.
edit: wait wait wait
You will learn how to fight back, and get really good at fighting. But nothing else.
You’re aware this refered to dying on lrp, not playing on lrp in general, yes?
It occured ot me that if you interpret it as the latter, your posts actually do make some sense, but that’s not at all what I meant to say originally.
getting good at sec requires being able to counter people with much better gear than you, who are much better at combat than you. this procsess looks like dying 100 times to some nerd with an e-bow before you realize how to best click there spacemen
same with engineering, you learn how to setup the SM by killing yourself a few times/blowing up the station once or twice.
You learn nothing from death. Death can only inspire you to learn how to fight. This seems to be what you’re talking about, but it doesn’t change that death itself just hinders you.
It can also be said that without pointless death, needing to learn to defend yourself also becomes pointless.
are you saying you don’t learn things while you’re dead? name literally one server where you learn things while you’re dead. holy shit bruh if that was your whole argument this whole time you have a brain tumor eating away at you
local man doesn’t read any of my previous posts, makes himself look like a total [REDACTED I CANT SAY THIS WORD NEVERMIND] in the process.
also, you can learn things from death if you have the basic human ability of hindsight. “what could i have done to win this fight?” “where did i go wrong?” and any other self reflection question a functioning human has. if you lack the mental capacity to do this, that’s your own problem.
Patently false. Only when you lose do you truly ask yourself: “What did I do wrong? And how do I avoid it in the future?”
And unwanted death is the ultimate proof of failure.
While private server is wonderful in answering the latter question you really need hostile opposition for the former.
No amount of insults is going to make your point into a good one.
Your argument appears to be that dying makes you be more prepared in the future.
After all, most deaths in the game are random. Some guy attacks you when you don’t expect it.
On paper it sounds good.
But here’s the thing: Most jobs simply can’t prepare in time. Unless you’re sec, getting things to defend yourself with takes ages. During this time you can still be attacked. If it’s a tider you can defend yourself, sure, but an actual antag or a shitsec spell your doom.
So what’s the solution? Rush armory instead of playing normally every round? Rush medbay for a syringe gun? Get flashes? Hide somewhere? Insert strat here? There’s only so far that being good at combat gets you when the enemy is hilariously over-advantaged. Maybe you’ve noticed something but none of these serve any purpose other than defending yourself. More on that below.
But I digress, there’s something in your wall of shit that I actually need to answer:
name literally one server where you learn things while you’re dead. holy shit bruh if that was your whole argument this whole time you have a brain tumor eating away at you
This is not my point. While true this is just the answer to your posts specifically.
I can see you’re trying very hard to make me look bad and I applaud that you’re dedicating your time and effort to it. It’s nice to see someone care this much about me.
My point is that no matter what you’ve come to play ss13 for, if it’s on lrp you will get killed unless you learn to defend yourself.
To defend yourself better, you eventually start behaving in the same way as the very same people that killed you at first, because simply knowing combat is not enough.
It’s a cycle of stupidity that replaces more and more of ss13’s actual gameplay with pointless pvp.
This would be fine out of context but lrp is not an actual pvp server. It’s being advertised as a place for new people to learn stuff. Not a place where “HAHA GET GOOD” is constantly showed in your face - which is what it is right now.
