Not Megatron Player Report (accepted)

Halinder · February 24, 2020, 1:34am

CKEY: Halinder

Your Discord: N/A

Offender’s CKEY: Not Megatron

LRP or MRP server: MRP

Offender’s In-Game Name: Nancy Druid

Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 02/23/2020

Round Number: 12831

Rules Broken: 3. Self-Antag, as security they decided to kill a cyborg for following its laws.

Incident Description: During a revolution round, I played secborg. Security murdered a headrev in their cell. I was told the HoS did it and arrested the HoS. Nancy Druid, detective, then admitted to killing the headrev instead, so I released the HoS and apologized. I then arrested Nancy Druid while she tried to flash me and handed her off to the warden.

Pretty much two minutes later, Nancy was back in the halls and tried to chase me with a flash on-sight. I evaded and went on my business. I came back to the sec hall a minute or two later while patrolling and Nancy had retrieved the ion rifle, shooting it blindly down the hall to stun me and kill me with the mime’s (no idea why he got involved) assistance. Nancy then had members of security arrest the RD (on a revolution round) to stop him from repairing me, though the RD tried again after being released. Nancy followed him to robotics and decided to conveniently leave out details of why she was arrested to convince the RD that I was rogue.

Additional Information: In OOC after the round, Not Megatron told me that ““Creative” interpretations of asimov is a really good way to get dismantled”, suggesting that they believe confessing to the murder of a crew member somehow does not fall under Law One.

Ruko · February 24, 2020, 1:43am

I’ll try to look into this within a few hours. If @NotMegatron has anything to say on the matter it might speed things up when I get to it

Looking into this now. Took much longer to get to than I thought.

Ruko · February 24, 2020, 1:09pm

[2020-02-24 01:13:22.430] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (200, 128, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:25.452] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (199, 138, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:28.633] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (201, 135, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:29.258] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (201, 136, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:33.381] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has grabbed Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) passive grab (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (199, 135, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:34.670] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has handcuffed Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (199, 135, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:40.428] ATTACK: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) has grabbed (Krav Maga) Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (200, 142, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:40.429] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has pulled from Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with Aden Finlay (NEWHP: 100) (Brig (200, 143, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:13:40.429] ATTACK: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) has grabbed Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) passive grab (NEWHP: 85.2) (Brig (200, 142, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:14:29.795] ATTACK: Tamumus/(Aden Finlay) has stripped the zipties off Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) (NEWHP: 85.2) (Prison Wing (200, 162, 2))

[2020-02-24 01:14:55.682] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot AzraelKnightquest/(Azrael Knightquest) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 57.5) (Central Primary Hallway (170, 137, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:15:03.896] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Central Primary Hallway (169, 148, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:15:04.349] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Central Primary Hallway (169, 148, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:15:13.940] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Central Primary Hallway (169, 144, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:15:14.756] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Central Primary Hallway (169, 144, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:15:15.518] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Central Primary Hallway (169, 144, 2))

[2020-02-24 01:16:05.359] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (192, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:05.510] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Starboard Primary Hallway (191, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:05.780] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (189, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:06.068] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Starboard Primary Hallway (187, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:06.320] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has fired at Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with the ion bolt from Brig (NEWHP: 100) (Brig (195, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:06.348] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (186, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:07.064] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (182, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:07.331] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot no key/(Officer Beepsky) with the ion bolt (NEWHP: 25) (Starboard Primary Hallway (192, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:07.536] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Starboard Primary Hallway (179, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:07.570] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (179, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:08.148] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Starboard Primary Hallway (175, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:08.220] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (174, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:08.508] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has fired at [floor] with the ion bolt from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (189, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:08.845] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (173, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:08.965] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has fired at [floor] with the ion bolt from Starboard Primary Hallway (Starboard Primary Hallway (189, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:09.122] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Starboard Primary Hallway (172, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:09.863] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Central Primary Hallway (171, 131, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:21.398] ATTACK: Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) has shot Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 85.2) (Starboard Primary Hallway (185, 129, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:21.699] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with the ion bolt (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (190, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:24.537] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 55) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:25.489] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: 5) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:26.003] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -20) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:26.582] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -45) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:30.296] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -70) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:30.948] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -95) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:31.492] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot Halinder/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:32.059] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:32.598] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:33.326] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has shot no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with .38 bullet (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:39.198] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:40.232] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:41.143] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:42.057] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:43.057] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:44.042] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:44.977] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:45.886] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:46.683] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:47.671] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:48.486] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:49.281] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:50.162] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:51.158] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:52.257] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))
[2020-02-24 01:16:53.190] ATTACK: Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) has attacked no key/(Lievir Flisrauy) with police baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (184, 130, 2))

The absolute VOLUME of exchanges between you two is not worth the time to copy paste all of, but I got this much of it without losing my sanity. Another later exchange happened exactly the same - NotMegatron resorted to completely smashing you up again.

Kate_bishop1 · February 24, 2020, 1:10pm

-1 if you are making sec job hard on a Revolution where the revs are killing the crew you get destroyed.

Ruko · February 24, 2020, 1:24pm

Silicons are obliged to follow their laws exactly, not interpret them fluidly or change their definitions mid-round for the sake of winning the round - Silicons protecting antagonists is just something that happens in several rounds until their laws are updated. This creates an additional obstacle for the crew to overcome (in the form of uploading laws), but the silicon is just playing their role.

Changelings are no longer considered crew or human after being revealed because their identity is clearly faked
Devils are protected until the same - when they transform it becomes apparent they have faked their identity.
Revolutionaries, Traitors and most others are never proven to have fake identities - they are on the crew manifest and it is up to someone to change the laws of silicons before the silicons will stop protecting them from harm. This doesn’t mean the silicons should go out of their way to directly assist enemies of the station, but stopping someone that has admitted to execution is a valid response with default lawset, and the silicon is bound to act like further executions are going to happen… especially if the person is openly claiming they will again.

Silicons, even secborgs (and secborgs are even told this explicitly) don’t care about space law, or the end result of the round. They care only about their laws.

Ruko · February 24, 2020, 1:24pm

Meant to direct that at you.
Report accepted, will discuss with player how silicons function and explain why this was over-escalation and what their options for dealing with obstructive silicons (that are appropriately following their laws) are.