[MRP/SAGE] "LA Noir" and "Mat05usz" toxic in OOC, admitting to metagrudging and griefing

   CKEY: Xyzzium

   Offender’s CKEY: LA Noir and Mat05usz and to a lesser extent Slatey and Crono23

   LRP or MRP server: MRP Sage

   Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 29-01-2020

   Round Number: 11995

   Rules Broken:1, hard

   Incident Description:

OOC: Xyzzium: seriously what’s with all the people running around with spears and tiding their way into places?
OOC: LA Noir: Why are you crying about it?
OOC: LA Noir: If you are so “Fucking bad at the grey-tide” then maybe join a server thats HRP
OOC: LA Noir: Xyzzy you’re retarded. Sorry to say this but the tests prove it
OOC: LA Noir: Well if “there are servers for everything” maybe you should join one of them Xyzzium

OOC: Mat05usz: Xyzz saying on chat that she is syndie when shes not
OOC: Mat05usz: how do i explain i know her IC name and she was retarded
OOC: Mat05usz: i know what characters you werer
OOC: Xyzzium: and now you’re admitting to a metagrudge?
OOC: Mat05usz: meta grudge in ooc?
OOC: Xyzzium: seriously why bring up past shit

OOC: Slatey: Isn’t this sserver meant to be LRP?

OOC: Crono23: I’m only here because LRP is dead


Additional Information: Full log below.

OOC: Xyzzium: did I accidentally connect to hippiestation?
OOC: Bilary: yes
OOC: DuathaDruid: Ikr?

(F) DEAD: Ada Darling asks, "is it revs or gangs?"
(F) DEAD: Dances-On-Graves says, "it's traitorchan"
(F) DEAD: Ada Darling asks, "what?"
(F) DEAD: Dances-On-Graves says, "traitors and changelings"
(F) DEAD: Ada Darling asks, "what's with all the assistants running around with spears?"
(F) DEAD: Dances-On-Graves says, "welcome to bee"
(F) DEAD: Dances-On-Graves says, "greys need their sticks"

**OOC: Xyzzium: seriously what's with all the people running around with spears and tiding their way into places?**
OOC: Xyzzium: I saw a sec officer with a spear for fuck's sake
**OOC: LA Noir: Why are you crying about it?**
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: LRP retards
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: Is why
OOC: Xyzzium: why are you not
OOC: Eva_NightShift: SeLF DeFENsE!1!1!
OOC: Mat05usz: ahelp them
OOC: Xyzzium: this is MRP, LA Noir
OOC: Selfiren: he is right tho. i also saw sec with spear - that's not how mrp works
OOC: Xyzzium: this isn't LRP or hippie station
OOC: LA Noir: I damn well know
OOC: Xyzzium: I have almost 200 hours here on Bee MRP, I'm not brand new. I know how the server functions. I very rarely see an environment like this.
OOC: Xyzzium: tiding and self-antagging during high pop sure, but not people breaking into captain's locker roundstart and sec officers running around with spears
OOC: Evan423: idk what you expect, it's lrp tide
OOC: Xyzzium: is hippiestation down or something?
OOC: Anonduble: hippie is dead
OOC: Xyzzium: I expect people who behave like that to be banned and go elsewhere
OC: DuathaDruid: LRP tide isnt the issue, its the administration not doing anything about the LRP flood
OOC: Mat05usz: yes ban everyone, servers will maintain themselves
OOC: DuathaDruid: but @Xyzz then this wouldnt be the new player friendly server, right?
OOC: Xyzzium: there's only so much they CAN do, and nobody really wants to go log diving to find people
**OOC: Slatey: Isn't this sserver meant to be LRP?**
OOC: Mat05usz: just think for a second
OOC: LA Noir: Open a new BEE server ffs
OOC: RuneQuester: no
OOC: Xyzzium: this is M R P
OOC: Xyzzium: there is another server for LRP
OOC: Mat05usz: and who's gonna pay for that?
OOC: Xyzzium: exactly
OOC: Mat05usz: but yes, ban 80%
OOC: Xyzzium: people who greytide are freeloading cunts
OOC: Bilary: well qwuerty said we have enough money for 7 other servers
OOC: Xyzzium: or literal children
OOC: Mat05usz: if population is maintained

Your ticket has been resolved by an admin. The Adminhelp verb will be returned to you shortly.

OOC: Mat05usz: if you ban people from here
OOC: Xyzzium: 70 people is too many
OOC: Mat05usz: and they get angry
OOC: Mat05usz: no it's not
OOC: Xyzzium: yes it is
OOC: Xyzzium: also the server already got DDoS'd by an angry tider
OOC: Mat05usz: and what? some lag was there and nothing
OOC: Xyzzium: for like a month
OOC: LA Noir: Iz' only game. Why you have to be mad?
OOC: Mat05usz: and how exactly you gonna defend against DDoS
OOC: Xyzzium: LA Noir shut up
OOC: Eva_NightShift: THIS IS ISNT GAME THIS IS MY LIFE!!111!
OOC: Mat05usz: ttell them, if you find a good one they will appreciate
OOC: Mat05usz: entire world will appreciate if you find a good defence againts DDos
OOC: Xyzzium: it's not just a gay game
OOC: Selfiren: idiot that bombed robotics - i will ahelp it
OOC: RuneQuester: ICK OCK
OOC: Bilary: ICK 
OOC: RuneQuester: Selfiren,i will ahelp you ick ocking
OOC: Xyzzium: it's like... if you're playing Chess properly, but your opponent is just moving pieces at random and flipping the table and says "IT'S JUST A GAME LOL WHY U MAD"
OOC: LA Noir: Says the man that asks people to ERP on discord
OOC: Winter Darkraven: Instead of telling us you will ahelp -- just ahelp you fucking ape
OOC: Xyzzium: there are rules in place
OOC: Mat05usz: Xyzz it't not
**OOC: Xyzzium: you can't just take the Rook and throw it across the table at your opponent's King and yell CHECKMATE**
OOC: Mat05usz: not entirely
**OOC: RuneQuester: yes you can**
OOC: Xyzzium: you can but you're a dick and you'll be banned from chess club for it
OOC: Xyzzium: because it's stupid
OOC: Xyzzium: and you're behaving like an angry child
OOC: Bilary: enlightended centrist
OOC: Mat05usz: Xyz just fucking think, what would you do if one of your servers is currently dying due to ddos and other tries to help it
OOC: Kasual: How do you take paper off an airlock
OOC: Scarwolff: ban
OOC: Xyzzium: I don't know what you're talking about any more
OOC: Xyzzium: I just want you LRP tider fucks gone
OOC: DuathaDruid: @mat the fuck are you talking about lol
OOC: Mat05usz: about people from LRP coming here
OOC: Eva_NightShift: mmm yes lrp 
OOC: Xyzzium: people from LRP can fucking stay in LRP
OOC: Mat05usz: and admiins trying to get them back to LRP
OOC: DuathaDruid: It just kinda sucks that the best time to play is like 4 AM
OOC: Mat05usz: but they really can'y
OOC: Xyzzium: dude
OOC: Xyzzium: mat
OOC: Xyzzium: LRP isn't 90% of the population
OOC: Takfirthemage: ME
OOC: Mat05usz: Zyx they tried
OOC: Slatey: I've played on Bee for months and the RP quality has never been high
OOC: Xyzzium: I'm willing to bet 50 of the players online right now are proper MRP players that want an MRP environment
OOC: DuathaDruid: They need to just switch the server names mid round one day
OOC: Mat05usz: i bet not
OOC: Xyzzium: ban mat
OOC: Xyzzium: BAN MAT
OOC: Xyzzium: BAN REE
OOC: DuathaDruid: BAN HEEEEEEEEEEE
OOC: Xyzzium: REE BAN BAN
OOC: DuathaDruid: WRYYYYYYYYYY
OOC: Colonelcummy: christ dude even i dont salt this much
OOC: Mat05usz: please do
OOC: Kasual: Does anyone know how to take a paper off an airlock? Or at least how to read it?
**OOC: Crono23: I'm only here because LRP is dead**
OOC: Astrotsygun: Just rename the server, tiders think this BEEstation is the same as the LRP one so they naturally choose this one and they dont even know what MRP means, meanwhile BEE lrp has like 10 players
OOC: Xyzzium: uh
OOC: Xyzzium: no
OOC: Mat05usz: also yes, i've been saying that shit all over again
OOC: Crono23: I am capable of MRP though, I'm not here to greytide
OOC: Beevus29100: maybe alt click will help
OOC: RuneQuester: Kasual,just examine the airlock to read
OOC: Xyzzium: rename it to BeesStation
OOC: Mat05usz: it's just social thing
OOC: Xyzzium: multiple bees
OOC: Mat05usz: you can't really do much without losing people wanting to play
OOC: Kasual: I put a forensic report there. It wont display the text
OOC: Xyzzium: I don't want to play with people who just want to make me suffer and say "CRY MORE BITCH RETARD" when they ruin my round
OOC: GungleTinkis: Bruh
**OOC: LA Noir: If you are so "Fucking bad at the grey-tide" then maybe join a server thats HRP**
OOC: Mat05usz: Xyz it isn't that easy than you might think
OOC: Xyzzium: dude I'm not
OOC: Mat05usz: also i'm not fucking beestation staff
OOC: Xyzzium: I'm not bad at greytide
OOC: LA Noir: A server where they give a big shit about tides
OOC: Mat05usz: just thinking for both sides
OOC: Bilary: salt
OOC: Xyzzium: I can tide if I need to
OOC: Bilary: salt
OOC: Xyzzium: I don't want to
OOC: Bilary: salt
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**OOC: Astrotsygun: well either get good admemes or shut the fuck up and go to another server**
OOC: Xyzzium: it's not fun or rewarding
OOC: RuneQuester: tide time
OOC: Brebert42: blah blah blah who gives a shit
OOC: RuneQuester: Astro,fuck off
OOC: LA Noir: Tide is good
OOC: Midijamz: you guys make my head hurt
OOC: Selfiren: MRP is against tiding - read rules
OOC: RuneQuester: admemes have hard work to do
OOC: Mat05usz: but you really don't get it
OOC: Mat05usz: this is MRP
OOC: Mat05usz: so you can't murderboe as IAA or something
OOC: Mat05usz: but it is not HRP
OOC: Capslock3284: you can't murderbone as any variant of traitor on MRP unless you have martyr or hijack
OOC: Mat05usz: so we have to have like 12 hour shifts
OOC: RuneQuester: caps
OOC: RuneQuester: you mean dide gloriusly?
OOC: Mat05usz: just a fucking example
OOC: Xyzzium: I'm not proud of my time spent on hippiestation and I want to get away from that
OOC: Capslock3284: ya
OOC: Mat05usz: really
OOC: Capslock3284: die a glorious death is shortened to martyr in the rules
OOC: Xyzzium: it'd be nice if other people felt the same way
OOC: Mat05usz: Xyz then go fucking LRP
OOC: Xyzzium: mat
OOC: Xyzzium: shut
OOC: Xyzzium: up
OOC: RuneQuester: Mat,please go
OOC: Mat05usz: nop
OOC: RuneQuester: no one wants the lRP tiders here
OOC: Mat05usz: i will not
OOC: Xyzzium: what makes you think you are the majority voice here, Mat?
OOC: RuneQuester: We are civilized MRP gang
OOC: Mat05usz: also yes, insulting because argument is too bad for ya
**OOC: LA Noir: Xyzzy you're retarded. Sorry to say this but the tests prove it**
OOC: RuneQuester: what test
OOC: Xyzzium: can an admin just mute OOC
OOC: Brebert42: amen
OOC: Slatey: wut
**OOC: Mat05usz: Xyzz saying on chat that she is syndie when shes not**
**OOC: Xyzzium: also I'm fairly certain there's a rule against being toxic in OOC**
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: I side with xyzz
OOC: Mat05usz: SO MRP
OOC: Eva_NightShift: barak obama killing me in maints plkease help
OOC: Winter Darkraven: Please save Xyzzium's feelings ;_;
OOC: Crono23: can you all just shut up so it's easier for me to concentrate on my 2d spessmans
OOC: RuneQuester: Mat,please explain?
OOC: Mat05usz: GIVE ME THAT RP XYZ
OOC: RuneQuester: How?
OOC: Astrotsygun: take paradise for example, they're awful furries and assdicks in general but their shit is 99% tider-free cuz they have 24/7 moderation and they perma people for shit like this
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: because
OOC: Slatey: zomg people disagree with me in ooc admins mute it
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: LRPing on the MRP server
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: Notice the issue?
**OOC: Mat05usz: how do i explain i know her IC name and she was retarded**
OOC: GungleTinkis: MRP isnt HRP for a reason too, though
OOC: Eva_NightShift: MRPing on LRP mm 
OOC: Mat05usz: this is not MRPing
OOC: Mat05usz: this is plain trying to HRP here
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: >hrp
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: Cringe
OOC: Capslock3284: eh
OOC: RuneQuester: >hrp
OOC: Xyzzium: guys can you please just follow rule 1
OOC: RuneQuester: >this is MRP
OOC: 1GlitchyCent: But this is MRP
OOC: Mat05usz: you just don't fucking do retarded shit on this server
OOC: Capslock3284: MRP seems more like LRP and LRP seems more like noRP half the time
OOC: Mat05usz: your character doesn't have to reflect you in 100%
OOC: Slatey: >funny meme arrows
OOC: Xyzzium: be nice to eachother and stop being toxic and insulting eachother for no reason
OOC: Xyzzium: I didn't call anyone out and I'm not trying to start a fight here
OOC: Bilary: this sounds like it was said by a 9 year old
OOC: Mat05usz: well you were toxic Xyz
OOC: Xyzzium: I didn't use any names
OOC: Bilary: "guys stop being mean"
OOC: Slatey: probably was
OOC: GungleTinkis: I'd say just ahelp something instead of ick ocking and announcing it to the server
OOC: Xyzzium: yes, guys, please stop being mean
OOC: Xyzzium: it's unnecessary
OOC: RuneQuester: It's literally honest
OOC: Mat05usz: when people fucked you because you called false syndie shit in pda
OOC: GungleTinkis: Jesus christ
OOC: RuneQuester: just stop being dicks
OOC: Xyzzium: what the fuck are you talking about!?
OOC: Mat05usz: much MRP
OOC: Xyzzium: I didn't even use my PDA this round
OOC: Xyzzium: who do you think I am IC?
OOC: RuneQuester: Mat,you dont help the setting
OOC: GungleTinkis: How about you just ahelp instead of dramatically announcing it to the server next time - This argument is fucking annoying
OOC: Mat05usz: i'm talking past
OOC: Xyzzium: what..?
**OOC: Mat05usz: i know what characters you werer**
**OOC: Xyzzium: and now you're admitting to a metagrudge?**
OOC: RuneQuester: Then why did you bring it up?
**OOC: Mat05usz: meta grudge in ooc?**
**OOC: Xyzzium: seriously why bring up past shit**
OOC: Mat05usz: what the fuck?
OOC: Remdey: polish players lmao
OOC: Xyzzium: yeah it's called BEING AN ASSHOLE
OOC: Mat05usz: that is why it
OOC: Xyzzium: stop being an asshole please
OOC: Mat05usz: ooc
OOC: Xyzzium: it is literally against the rules
OOC: RuneQuester: >metagrudge is LITERALLY ooc,not IC
OOC: Mat05usz: i'd metagrudge if i killed you in game
OOC: Xyzzium: I don't think you understand the rules or the server environment at all
OOC: Mat05usz: bruh really
OOC: Mat05usz: not like
OOC: Mat05usz: 98% of communications on ooc
OOC: Mat05usz: is based on that
OOC: Mat05usz: just talking
OOC: Xyzzium: why would you join a MRP server for LRP
OOC: Colonelcummy: >preferences>Show/Hide OOC finally relief
OOC: Xyzzium: that's like joining a LRP server for furry ERP
**OOC: Xyzzium: there are servers for everything**
OOC: Mat05usz: well yes
OOC: Eva_NightShift: FURRY ERP YESS MMM 
OOC: Mat05usz: and i am explaining you
OOC: Mat05usz: that you are wrong
OOC: Xyzzium: no you're not
OOC: Xyzzium: you're not explaining anything you're just being a dick
OOC: Mat05usz: oh yes surely
OOC: Slatey: oh god my computer sucks
OOC: RuneQuester: what are you explaining mat
**OOC: LA Noir: Well if "there are servers for everything" maybe you should join one of them Xyzzium**
**OOC: Xyzzium: I did**
**OOC: Xyzzium: it's called MRP**
OOC: Xyzzium: and I'm looking for MRP
OOC: Slatey: yeah he's got a point there
OOC: Astrotsygun: he's right thoe, MRP is not tiders berserking in the hallways with spears and noone doing their job
OOC: Selfiren: this^
OOC: DuathaDruid: Maybe I should just host a version of Bee MRP with a 0 tolerance policy
OOC: Slatey: that sounds like hrp then
OOC: Selfiren: you literally have a message about anti greytiding when you join game
OOC: Astrotsygun: MRP is like HRP without all the ultra-autistic shit
OOC: Selfiren: yes
OOC: Selfiren: that's why people playing on mrp
OOC: Astrotsygun: well fuck this Im going to the 10player BEE lrp server where people probably MRP lmao
OOC: Xyzzium: ok bye
OOC: Valentinecave: othey dont!
OOC: Takfirthemage: oh wow
OOC: DuathaDruid: Honestly, i see about the same amount of LRP/Powergaming here as i do there
OOC: Takfirthemage: why is the server acting like there's no admins
OOC: Takfirthemage: it's practically goldie
OOC: Bilary: because theres only trialimins
OOC: DuathaDruid: Because right now, we have ONE trialmin to 75 FUCKING PEOPLE
OOC: DuathaDruid: they NEED to get more admins
OOC: Slatey: he's doing his best
OOC: RuneQuester: a TRIALMIN
OOC: Slatey: leave him be
OOC: RuneQuester: No
OOC: Takfirthemage: tip to trialmin
OOC: Takfirthemage: start with sec
OOC: DuathaDruid: Bee cant be one of the most popular on the hub, and be this understaffed
OOC: Takfirthemage: they are the root of all evil
OOC: Midijamz: you guys make my head hurt
OOC: DuathaDruid: Trialmin is doing a good job
OOC: RuneQuester: We are saying there should be more fucking admins
OOC: RuneQuester: He is
OOC: Bilary: bee is the oldest anarchy server on ss13
OOC: RuneQuester: trying to manage us autists
OOC: Capslock3284: be nice to the poor guy
OOC: RuneQuester: We are?
OOC: NekoSam: NGHHH ADMINE SOMEON STUBED MUH TOE BAN HE
OOC: Bilary: no we arent
OOC: RuneQuester: Atleast I am
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“Is the reason I’m disliked due to me bringing in LRP (or toxic) behavior onto the MRP server despite protests and being told this behavior isn’t tolerated?”

“No, clearly it’s just the MRP players that are wrong and bad.”

Honestly though people like these have no excuse considering THE LENGTHS THE STAFF HAS GONE TO TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS IS AN MRP SERVER.

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Lets keep things on topic please.

Edit: Just going to hit the reset button on this thread.

I don’t want to sound whiny but this kind of behavior, even in OOC salt chat, should be addressed.

It’s not about hurt feelings, because my feelings aren’t hurt. This isn’t about my fee-fees. This is about an objectively toxic environment being incessantly permeated by ignorant toxic people who refuse to adapt to a less toxic environment with higher standards.

It defines the norms for the server, and people are less and less likely to put effort into trying to stop it by way of ahelps or player reports if they feel like “this is normal” or “the admins won’t do anything.”
And I can assure you, those sentiments are real.

I’ve spoken with many people who genuinely believe that their ahelps go completely unanswered and that admins are incompetent. I’m not going to name names.

In fact I, personally, have taken to watching the bans page after every round where there’s a lot of toxic behavior and I’m often incredibly disappointed by the sheer lack of people being held accountable for their actions. Yes, I know some people are being noted, but it just doesn’t feel like it’s enough.

Toxic people aren’t going to leave on their own, and the longer they stay and toxify the environment the more other people will start to behave toxic in response to it. I know I’ve been affected by it. It’s incredibly difficult sometimes to patiently ahelp and just LET your round be ruined by a griefer, especially when it feels like nothing is going to be done.

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Believe me, it’s sad that I cannot be an admeme due to time constraints.
If I could, I would be the MRP nazi the server might not deserve, but definetly needs.
We need to start handing out bans for greytiding.

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Golden still exists for people like you.

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I wish it existed, low pop almost anyday and every day

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Here is a “small” excerpt of the conversation between you guys. All logs beneath are in chronological order, the one I start with first happened before all the others and yada yada. You start by doing IC in OOC:

OOC: Xyzzium: seriously what's with all the people running around with spears and tiding their way into places?**
OOC: Xyzzium: I saw a sec officer with a spear for fuck's sake

To which some people also do IC in OOC saying that they agree with you on how tiders are bad, leading to LA Noir’s message and your direct responses to him:

OOC: LA Noir: Iz' only game. Why you have to be mad?
OOC: Xyzzium: LA Noir shut up
OOC: Xyzzium: it's not just a gay game
OOC: Xyzzium: it's like... if you're playing Chess properly, but your opponent is just moving pieces at random and flipping the table and says "IT'S JUST A GAME LOL WHY U MAD"
OOC: LA Noir: Says the man that asks people to ERP on discord
OOC: Mat05usz: Xyz just fucking think, what would you do if one of your servers is currently dying due to ddos and other tries to help it
OOC: Xyzzium: I don't know what you're talking about any more
OOC: Xyzzium: I just want you LRP tider fucks gone

Now, telling people to fuck off isn’t really the best way to get on their good side, even if you ignore the IC in OOC you started with.

There’s then some talk about the DDOS situation in LRP and how people are flooding to MRP, after which this bundle of autism happens:

OOC: Xyzzium: I'm willing to bet 50 of the players online right now are proper MRP players that want an MRP environment
OOC: DuathaDruid: They need to just switch the server names mid round one day
OOC: Mat05usz: i bet not
OOC: Xyzzium: ban mat
OOC: Xyzzium: BAN MAT
OOC: Xyzzium: BAN REE
OOC: DuathaDruid: BAN HEEEEEEEEEEE
OOC: Xyzzium: REE BAN BAN
OOC: DuathaDruid: WRYYYYYYYYYY
OOC: Colonelcummy: christ dude even i dont salt this much
OOC: Mat05usz: please do

Good work on @Colonelcummy’s side, whomever he may be.

Then the bait game starts:

OOC: LA Noir: If you are so "Fucking bad at the grey-tide" then maybe join a server thats HRP
OOC: Mat05usz: Xyz it isn't that easy than you might think
OOC: Xyzzium: dude I'm not
OOC: Mat05usz: also i'm not fucking beestation staff
OOC: Xyzzium: I'm not bad at greytide
OOC: LA Noir: A server where they give a big shit about tides
OOC: Mat05usz: just thinking for both sides
OOC: Bilary: salt
OOC: Xyzzium: I can tide if I need to
OOC: Bilary: salt
OOC: Xyzzium: I don't want to
OOC: Bilary: salt
OOC: Astrotsygun: well either get good admemes or shut the fuck up and go to another server
OOC: Xyzzium: it's not fun or rewarding
OOC: RuneQuester: tide time
OOC: Brebert42: blah blah blah who gives a shit
OOC: RuneQuester: Astro,fuck off

Quite a few bystanders have pointed out their discontent about the state of OOC at this point, which tells tales about how dumb this entire conversation sounds.

OOC: Mat05usz: i know what characters you werer
OOC: Xyzzium: and now you're admitting to a metagrudge?
OOC: RuneQuester: Then why did you bring it up?
OOC: Mat05usz: meta grudge in ooc?

Mat said it for me here. You can’t metagrudge people in OOC chat. Please do let us know if he decides to target you IC due to OOC reasons invalidly.

There’s nothing here to punish anyone for. If anything, the IC in OOC you did during the start of the conversation is the only thing really breaking the rules here.

Besides that:

Please stop dividing the server between LRP and MRP. It helps nobody, and having internal tensions is sad to watch. Some MRP players have a superiority complex while some LRP players like to shit talk people who like to have a calmer RP environment which really doesn’t make sense. It all boils down to personal preference and has nearly nothing to do with your skill in the game. There are better ways to blow out frustration than shitting on the members of your own community.

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