Leestriter banned by winterdarkraven

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CKEY:leestriter

Admin’s CKEY:winterdarkrven

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: both

Ban Type: botany job ban

Ban Length: 1 month

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY):2021-03-03 10:45

Round ID:27556

Ban Reason:Botany antagonism and grief. Used explosive plants to open Bridge, Vault, and departments because they wanted to get inside. Already warned for botany issues. Try other jobs.

Appeal Reason: The “already warned” was 2020-06-23 06:03:55 | bs_golden | Dallen9. I do not believe a 9 month old ticket is relevant. If anything 9 months of play without a problem should show that I am not a shitter. I get that was I did was dickish, but it was 4 am lrp, maybe 6 people online. People knew I broke into vault and into bridge/teleport, didn’t really care. Did not cause any breaches. Just wanted to mess with kudzu on ai sat where no one would get hurt. Broke into vault, honestly, to see if it would work for when there’s serious games. Low pop lrp is sometimes just messing around when its less then 10 people. To me it made me valid, one month job ban seems like a lot. Low pop lrp is a different beast to mrp or even high pop lrp, and I think this ban ignores that and the fact that no one in round was hurt or negatively affected. I stopped as soon as anyone asked me to stop, in this case that was the admin.

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Going over this with a coffee. I’ll pull all the explosions. Using explosives to destroy your way into areas is a bad idea.

If you’re going to repeat this and use botany as an excuse to blow up doors, windows, walls, and departments, you can keep the ban. Try other jobs.

but

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[2021-03-03 10:23:41.617] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig (119, 165, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:23:45.969] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig (119, 165, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:23:50.568] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig (119, 168, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:24:01.517] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig Control (116, 172, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:24:04.569] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig Control (116, 172, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:24:08.168] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig Control (116, 172, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:24:12.119] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig Control (117, 172, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:24:16.417] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig Control (117, 172, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:24:24.074] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Brig Control (117, 173, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.

Skipping awhile – there are a lot of explosions in between

[2021-03-03 10:29:22.081] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Bridge (122, 134, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:29:24.476] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Bridge (122, 134, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:29:26.923] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Bridge (122, 134, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:30:06.427] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Cargo Office (90, 117, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:30:18.176] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Cargo Bay (84, 120, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:30:28.829] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at EVA Storage (101, 143, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:30:31.975] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at EVA Storage (101, 143, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:30:36.876] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at EVA Storage (101, 147, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:30:59.676] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 145, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:02.526] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 145, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:05.275] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 145, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:08.528] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 145, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:11.528] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 145, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:16.627] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 148, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:22.776] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Vault (82, 148, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.
[2021-03-03 10:31:50.477] GAME: Reagent explosion reaction occurred at Starboard Primary Hallway (157, 129, 2). Last Fingerprint: leestriter.

This isn’t a complete list.

You should avoid making yourself valid, valid is for antagonistic behaviour (some exceptions like the mime and Ian exist)

Using explosives is antagonistic.

(also if you knew you were valid and yet had weapons and explosives on you, wouldn’t you fight back? that’s valid baiting.)

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With a previous history of botany shittery this appears just a disregard for the rules.

As the logs show above it’s not a “oops dropped a lemon” it’s clear intent.

I’m surprised it’s not a server ban as well. Obviously time to learn other roles and ban should stay.

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I agree that a ban is necessary, but not necessarily a month long one.

I also want to say that self-antag is self-antag regardless of the current population - if you want to test out how effective explosives are on the station, either do it as an antag, or do it on a local server that you booted up yourself.

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Yeah a month for not hurting anyone? And the previous incident referenced here was 9 months prior. After this I did get in trouble for trying to use kudzu to kill an AI, but that’s a separate ban that happened after.

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It was shortened. Don’t repeat this in the future.