Killing the HOP because he was an very nice person

CKEY:
Brille65

Admin’s CKEY:
whyiscaeciliustaken

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one:
I guess both but happend on MRP

Ban Type:
Game-ban

Ban Length:
7 Days

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY):
2020-03-06

Round ID:
13188

Ban Reason:
Killed the HoP for flushing their ID down disposals

Appeal Reason:
On a Greenshift/Extended i did asked the HOP, as Robotocist, to get Maintenance access. His cool-kid-response was something like “you know what, fuck you ligger” and took my ID and put it into the trash. I F1’d that, but of course, marked as IC Issue. The next persons that came through got all access, at least from that what he said. HOP’s name was Andy something. Couldn’t copy&Paste it because my game literally crashed after the ban.
For a while i tried to connect anyone with authority about this problem, but MRP as BeeStation is, nobody answered to that. Besides the RD who apparently got pissed of by the HOP aswell who then tried to remove that HOP together with the captain? I dont know. He gave me back my (?) ID and yeah. A few moments later i was hearing some kind of fighting noises from xeno so i went there and saw how the HOP was flashing the RD and the Detective (Tho i am not sure if it was the detective, he looked like it, at least security) and attacking the RD. So i thought I join the fight to remove the HOP. The Security guy was apparently fine with our doing? and the RD slashed off his head then together with me and took the head to an unknown position. I think he fryd the brain because he made an allusion over comms…

Additional Information:
Would like to see the ban get removed since that HOP act like an total asshole on Extended AND MRP… Even tho my way to solve this wasnt really MRP either…

I think I was captain that round and yes, HoP was very ‘racist’ towards lizards, he was insulting RD, pushing him and you know, just being a retard. My point is HoP was not behaving as he should, and ye, it might be my fault I didn’t demote him, but xenos seemed to be a bigger problem. While the thing they did after killing HoP is very bad, HoP was a shitter, so for me this should be at least lowered.

Edit: if above is tl;dr
HoP was the shitter this shift, actions taken after were bad, but made with anger from previous actions.

sounds like it was worth it

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You shouldn’t kill people like that, not on MRP for sure, but HoP was a shitter.

Edit:
So ye Cae, this either should be removed or shortened, he did a baddie but his anger is understandable.

ok i’m not recommending killing ppl if they flush your ID and say ‘fuck you ligger’ (given he did get his id back) but i am saying if i saw it happen as admin… then i didn’t see it happen

From what I understood IC, HoP was shitter towards robo and RD because… they were liggers. As he was HoP he should be free from racism and either deny or give access, nothing else.

I was the HoP in quesiton this round.

For context, you first lied about what went down, telling the admins that I spaced your ID when I just flushed it. It was a greenshift and I thought introducing some element of IC conflict would make a otherwise boring round interesting, so I flushed your ID for being a lizard. You just had to dive into disposals to get it back, its not that incovienient.

And the stuff with the RD happened because I was just checking out reports of xenos in xenobio and wanted to look for myself, when I rocked up the RD wordlessly attacked me, I tried to defend myself with my baton (harmlessly) and the RD and you proceeded to wordlessly decipitate me. (this was after you got your ID back, mind)

Also, at no point did I use the word ‘ligger’.

From what i recall, you did. Also hey. You got your conflict. Wonder why you did the F1 then…

Because you wordlessly debrained me after getting your id back?

Well, I did not really do the debraining part. Maybe helped the RD to archive that

This was your third case of massive overescalation in less than six hours.

First, you killed an assistant with a circular saw for breaking into robotics and shoving the other roboticist once.

Second, the CMO injured you earlier and was arrested. When you met again on the shuttle, you spaced them.

That Assistant had no good business to do in Robotics and attacked, from my view, my co worker and also stole a flash, at least. Also a borg did pulled him out so i guess get got threatment in the medbay

Next round:
That CMO did not really attack me, but if you say so.
He got spaced at the shuttle because he refused to help multiple times earlier. Making Synthflesh or handing out defibs to defib people, just as example. ruin the round for many people, i guess. Also the CMO was dead from what i saw at the shuttle so what?

I didnt know that Andy Norf stands under special admin protection and can therefore do what ever he likes, playing Hitler vs. Lizards as a Head of Personnel is perfectly fine?(on Sage) well then. Sorry for not accepting my fate and getting mad as such a very competent HoP.

Just because you do not understand the server rules does not mean that anyone who isn’t punished when you want them to be is under “special admin protection”.

You cannot kill people for mildly inconveniencing you.

Oh, sorry then. I really thought a HOP who does this kind of shit is breaking Server rules but i guess whats why i am not an Admin but you are.

lorewise being racist to non-human crew members is fine and should be expected as a downside to picking the lizard sub-species.

you killed me for what would have essentially been a 3 minute brig timer in security, thats why its over-escelation.

Yeah if only any security worker or captain would have give a flying f* over this report. Its just hilarious how you created such a situation and then cry to the admins as soon as you get the bill for it. But i guess. should have expected nothing less

I ended up having two meetings with both security and the captain over that incident actually, and it was resolved by the captain with a formal warning to cool it on the kool aid. It was all RP’ed.

Chainsawing your bosses head off because he threw something of yours in the trash isnt a reasonable response though.

ok i have a brille story!! this was 100 or something rounds ago. Ok so i asked rnd for a multitool and the scientists(including brille) say no, so i try to greytide in multiple times because i NEED my FUCKING MULTITOOL but brille stops me each time and so the 3rd time he stuns me somehow i think he might’ve just beat me into crit i don’t remember but HE THEN TAKES ME. To ROBOTICS. and tries to FORCE BORG me. i was APPALLED!!! ultimately he took me to medbay after deciding not to borg me i guess but i was shocked and upset with his ruthlessness. next round i did metagrudge him tho bc there was no way i was helping this rat of a lizard that soon after he went psycho mode on me

Imagine being so mad that the mean grey man tried to steal a multitool that you consider force borging him.

Imagine that happend like 100 years ago and has no real meaning to the actual case