Admin’s CKEY: Ivniinvi
Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: A spawnmenu ban, not a server ban.
Ban Type: Role ban.
Ban Length: 1 week
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2021-09-10
Round ID: 32616.
Ban Reason: Banned from Roles: Brainwashed Victim, Deathsquad, Drone, Lavaland, Mind Transfer Potion, Posibrain, Sentience Potion Spawn for 1 week - Killed the exploration crew as a free golem. Overescalation.
Appeal Reason: I personally find that this ban was completely and utterly unfair. Our conversation was very short and didn’t exactly clear up anything. Now I want to clarify this on the forums since I did not have the opportunity to in the server; the escalation rule that we were being scolded over was seemingly over ‘Normal escalation’ as opposed to the ‘Lavaland Escalation’ which states that we might skip any conflict in which we are not the aggressor immediately to step 5.
Now, the two exploration crew involved were being quite rude in demanding their artifact back- which I will quickly explain of how this artifact happened into our possession in the first place. The King at the time was shoved into the makeshift teleporter we had constructed for us to be transported to and from the mining station that we had been working along side the majority of the round, although for some reason it was linked to a teleporter pad within the exploration shuttle (at least we think it was) and the King grabbed it and meandered back through the portal, not realizing what this artifact was. We gawked at it for a bit once he came back, then forgot about it. This ques the entrance of the two explorers in question, whom instantly came in somewhat heated, demanding we return the item in a less than friendly way. This is when one of our golems decided to punch one of the explorers that were speaking, whom instantly turned around and started firing on us all, triggering the fight. The fight would ensue, and the two would be killed, one outside of the golem ship, and one inside the cockpit, which both were dragged back into the main area of the ship and tossed back into the station to be revived.
I personally do not believe such a punishment should have been put on us, a job ban of not only Lavaland roles, but also the ones available during the course of the round for a week. I also believe all the players involved should also have their punishment lessened due to its severity, and how poorly it was handled. During the whole process of us attempting to speak with the admin and explain what happened, the two explorers continued to insult and call us names throughout the whole process, being quite disrespectful and uncivil, attacking us OOCly, which the admin did not respond to, nor punish for despite the severity of some of their comments, of which could be observed by reading the logs back through in the rounds OOC chat.
Now to mention how the admin handled the situation as a whole; he seemed to have not taken any information from the side of the golems whatsoever, asking the correct questions, although not pursuing, such as, “Why did you kill the explorers?” or “Why did you steal the artifact?” and not pushing beyond that, despite there obviously being more to the situation than one would expect, and this is especially important for a ban that spans a week, it needs more context than simply asking questions without pursuing further information, simply banning us. On my side, all I got was a “So, why did you kill the explorers?” and I explained what had happened (read above), and he hadn’t responded after the fact, and just banned me without asking any further question or inquiry. Another reason as to why he didn’t seem to push any further was due to the fact that the Envy knife was involved, of which we hadn’t discovered its power and why it was turning the king into differing forms until the end when he turned into one of the lizard person explorers we had entered combat with.
In conclusion, the punishment was quite badly placed and executed, and it should be rescinded for all those involved. Thanks for your time.