JackTheLing's Ban Appeal

CKEY:

Admin’s CKEY: Bloons

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Which server did the ban happen on?
Golden

Ban Type:
Temporary
Ban Length:
3 Days
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY):
June, 12, 2020
Round ID:
17128
*Ban Reason:

Appeal Reason:

First of all, Bloons had not talked to me to before banning me. Didn’t even look to see my side of the story. Round had ended and I just got banned

I saved the HoS, Sophia Alby from the traitor Nan Kellog or however you spell it. But I take her ID while she is critted but help here and heal her up with another player. Without words Captain sees me in security office by maintenance and tried to laser me. I run out. I am unsure of WHEN I critted Cappy, It was either then when he slipped on my lube or I came back to get some armor and he chased me and fell on my lube. He was not a sec officer and I did not lethal HoS at all that round so I am lost for the “lethal sec officer”. After a long time of fighting HoS and Captain comms goes down and unrobust HoS cannot call for help. I fullstrip him and uncuff him in Chapel. I end up taking him back to security and healing him. Even seeing HoS in Medical somehow critted from blood loss and giving him O- blood, (probably because he just gave up once I fullstripped him in Chapel and neglected to heal himself. No idea how or why he was severely bruised because I am 99% sure I did not do it.).

But before I helped HoS in medical I fullstripped the Captain because if I had not he would’ve kept trying to lethal me. Throw him down disposals and get him from disposals. He hits me with a fire axe but I easily disable him and crit him. Did not want to kill him so I told someone I had befriended (a moth) to heal him up at medical. I get to have a conversation with him in medical by hiding behind a windoor, telling him I had to crit him because he started. I also told him about how HoS tried to arrest me after I saved him. I end making him new HoS and he agrees to it…Very serious. We end up becoming cool when shuttle comes and even sit in command booth together without killing each other.

Additional Information:

Bloons DID NOT GET MY SIDE OF THE STORY WHICH SEEMS TO BE IN VIOLATION WITH THE ADMIN CONDUCT CODE WHICH SAYS TO ENSURE TICKETS AND SITUATIONS ARE HANDLED EQUALLY ACROSS ALL PLAYERS

Also,


I did not validhunt but validhunting isn’t against the rules. This entire ban is flimsy and was sloppily made without appropriate evidence gathering and impartiality and is bullshit.

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I left some of the “minor” fights with HoS and Captain out because most of them HoS got stripped and got their equipment back or Captain lucked out by HoS coming or a random passing validhunting seemingly attempting to help him

Isnt this still validbaiting,you broke in and when they tried to arrest you,you critted them.By this logic breaking into armory woud make warden and hos valid to you because you are valid to them???

No, I trespassed and Captain tried to lethal me. I only stripped HoS because he tried to nonlethally subdue me. I critted Captain because he did and tried to laser me. I even told him once I finally stripped
him fully and flushed him down disposals. “you see, you did not lethal me so I cannot kill you”.

Also it does not make them valid to the player unless Warden and HoS lethal them first. Thought that would be obvious. If they attempt to nonlethally subdue them then no, HoS and Warden are not valid to the player

Im preety sure that admins said that if you break into armory and do shit like that you cant crit or murder sec/cap/warden/hos because that woud be valid baiting.

The ahelp that I got was that was that Rogue had fullstripped the captain and attacked the HoS.
I followed you and saw you attack a sec officer with lethals near cargo maint after that officer tried to arrest you with a disabler.

Valid-baiting, not valid-hunting.

I’ll pull logs on this later.

Also:


This is to enforce that admins don’t let their metafriends off the hook, nor let admins that are gruding a player handle tickets with those players.

That was Captain when I was letting him out of Cargo because I had just took his ID. He attacked me with a fire axe and could’ve killed me because I did not think he would attempt to kill me. The abruptness of the attack left me forced to crit him. Also why did you not bwoink me for my side of the story and waited until round end to ban me if you were watching me that long? Shit is suspicious. From the not bwoinking me to you watching me do shit I do not remember and waiting until the last minute to act on it when you say you’ve been watching me from the start

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Also whatever you’re saying about the disabler is untrue. I do not remember attacking anyone near cargo besides cappy

Before this you broke into brig and saved the HoS from a traitor.

Then you opened armory and looted it.

[2020-06-12 17:01:10.949] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has attacked [reinforced window] with the fire axe (Wielded) (Brig Control (108, 176, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:11.773] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has attacked [reinforced window] with the fire axe (Wielded) (Brig Control (108, 176, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:12.673] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has attacked [reinforced window] with the fire axe (Wielded) (Brig Control (108, 176, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:13.664] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has attacked [reinforced window] with the fire axe (Wielded) (Brig Control (108, 176, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:14.456] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has attacked [grille] with the fire axe (Wielded) (Brig Control (108, 176, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:18.079] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at no key/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) with the laser from Armory (NEWHP: 45) (Armory (111, 180, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:18.135] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has shot no key/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) with the laser (NEWHP: 11) (Armory (111, 180, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:18.443] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at no key/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) with the laser from Armory (NEWHP: 11) (Armory (111, 180, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:18.537] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has shot no key/(Sergeant-at-Armsky) with the laser (NEWHP: 0) (Armory (111, 180, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:48.937] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Security Office (Security Office (124, 174, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:49.220] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has shot Chamoral/(Christina Goebbles) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Firing Range (127, 174, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:56.183] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [�Firing Range air scrubber #1] with the disabler beam from Fore Maintenance (Fore Maintenance (127, 172, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:56.183] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has shot Chamoral/(Christina Goebbles) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100) (Fore Maintenance (127, 172, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:01:56.371] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Christina Goebbles) has shot JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) with the laser (NEWHP: 85) (Firing Range (127, 174, 2))

Captain shoots at you with a laser

2020-06-12 17:06:25.462] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has stripped the armored trenchoat off Dallen9/(Sophia Alby) (NEWHP: 100) (Brig (107, 164, 2))
Line 3285: [2020-06-12 17:06:28.143] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has sprayed [floor] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/lube (95u) (Brig (108, 166, 2))
Line 3288: [2020-06-12 17:06:30.033] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has sprayed [floor] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/lube (90u) (Brig (111, 166, 2))
Line 3308: [2020-06-12 17:06:41.973] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has stuffed Dallen9/(Sophia Alby) into the disposal unit (NEWHP: 92.5) (Security Office (123, 175, 2))
Line 3311: [2020-06-12 17:06:44.375] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has sprayed [floor] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/lube (85u) (Security Office (120, 172, 2))
Line 3551: [2020-06-12 17:09:42.826] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Brig Control (Brig Control (107, 170, 2))
Line 3552: [2020-06-12 17:09:42.938] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has shot Dallen9/(Sophia Alby) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 77.5) (Brig Control (107, 170, 2))
Line 3554: [2020-06-12 17:09:43.139] ATTACK: Dallen9/(Sophia Alby) has shot JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) with the electrode (NEWHP: 100) (Brig Control (104, 170, 2))
Line 3555: [2020-06-12 17:09:43.274] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Brig Control (Brig Control (107, 170, 2))
Line 3556: [2020-06-12 17:09:43.383] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has shot Dallen9/(Sophia Alby) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 77.5) (Brig Control (107, 170, 2))
Line 3559: [2020-06-12 17:09:43.762] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [�Brig Control air scrubber #2] with the disabler beam from Brig Control (Brig Control (107, 169, 2))
Line 3561: [2020-06-12 17:09:44.479] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [Secure Gear Storage] with the disabler beam from Brig Control (Brig Control (107, 169, 2))

Sophia Alby, the HoS tried to shoot you with a disabler after you try to steal all of their items.

You win the fight.

Captain sees this and tries to attack you with rubbershot.

[2020-06-12 17:09:49.300] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (110, 167, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:09:49.827] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (112, 167, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:09:49.839] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Christina Goebbles) has shot JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) with the rubbershot pellet (NEWHP: 99.2) (Brig (109, 165, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:09:49.840] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Christina Goebbles) has shot JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) with the rubbershot pellet (NEWHP: 98.4) (Brig (109, 165, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:09:49.942] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Christina Goebbles) has shot JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) with the rubbershot pellet (NEWHP: 98.4) (Brig (109, 165, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:09:50.321] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (112, 167, 2))
[2020-06-12 17:09:50.832] ATTACK: JackTheLing/(Rebel Trouble) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (114, 167, 2))

I’ll better format these later and post the rest

No. I broke into brig with the fire axe to GET THE DYING HOS…This is evident by directly after I break into brig there should be a log of me pulling HoS and someone giving him CPR and me epipenning him twice. I also flashed the traitor who killed him or almost did which should be evident by the logs of me flashing Nan, HoS asking for his ID back after I gave him the traitor who attempted to kill him and me saying why would I give his ID back on comms. You still haven’t answered why you decided not to bwoink me first. This could’ve been cleared up easily dude

ban/note removed.
I looked over the logs, and it all fits with your story.
You were entirely in the right for that round.

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Thanks. Next time make sure to bwoink the player. This could’ve been avoided, no hard feelings though.

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