Humanlike Banned by Admin Prickly_Tomato

CKEY: humanlike

Admin’s CKEY: prickly_tomato

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: All

Ban Type: Role ban

Ban Length: One week

Ban Date: 2020-08-26 03:20

Round ID:20417

Ban Reason: Unprofessional behavior as HOS, stunbatoned and wined when Captain promoted someone without giving HOS a heads up. Appeal if you feel like this is wrong and do not repeat this behavior again.

Appeal Reason: Captain promoted A geneticist with no threat to the station and did not notify me (HoS). (I got fucking mad obviously) He could had compromised the entire sec team. I then complained in command channel because cap has compromised security. he refuses to demote the newly promoted security officer. I then stunned him A couple of times. (not cuffing) since cap was being A absolute moron. cap in turn arrest me. stripped me and throw me off bridge. im not entirely off the wrong. but one week? with no prior shitty head behaviour? thats too much. And cap dint get banned.

Additional Information: All of this is in A middle of A gang round

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I’m heading to bed soon so I’ll just give my opinion before bringing the logs up during the morning. I originally wasn’t planning on giving a job ban to you before I realized how bad your behavior and outlook on this was during the ticket, especially with your history. It’s a nice thing for the captain to give you a heads up but if they slipped up and didn’t it’s fine. The moment you found out and asked cap you had a tantrum and screamed like a child at them about it, captain acted professionally in their response to you and as a response to that, you go over to the bridge and scream at the captain to demote the geneticist. After less than a second, you started stun batoning them to convince them to demote the geneticist. They appropriately demote you and then you wine in ahelp, looping the same questions for almost a hour. Captain getting banned for not giving you a heads up isn’t bannable.

Further backstory: Round start sec was only one officer, ward, HOS, and brig physician. It was reasonable for HOS to want to hire a couple more officers. If this happens, COC is in order and HOS either needs to ask captain to pass anyone through him first before promoting, if that doesn’t work they need to do the usual mindshielding and bag check to make sure they aren’t a traitor (the simpler ways to check) and keep an eye on them. This also happened during a gang round so even if the geneticists is a gang member, they would have no reason to want to become sec.

It is not appropriate for HOS to REEE and stun the captain because “ME HOS, I AM KING HERE”. COC exists, just be happy they didn’t execute you for your attempt at mutiny and please cut out this powertripping behavior. I did the sec ban for obvious reasons, and the head ban was to make sure you didn’t move that behavior to other head jobs. Also made it global to make sure no more bull shittery happened on LRP. It would’ve been nice for the captain to tell you about adding more officers but they are the bloody captain and you are HOS, they are in charge of the whole station (including sec) so their word and wishes is law.

note: this happened within the first ten minutes or so of the round

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The Captain is your commanding officer on the station, and the captain should have been talked to in some capacity as well, but you certainly do not have a clean record.

Haven’t seen logs yet, but having firsthand experience dealing with you, I don’t think the ban is unreasonable. You have been a constant problem player since joining the server.

Edit: I do want to highlight they’ve been mostly non-major problems, but still constant problems nonetheless.

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Here is the log dump, looking at it I honestly should’ve initiated the ahelp instead of only deciding to do the ban after the painful 1 hour conversation over ahelp.

Here is Humanlike after stunning the newly promoted officer and talking to the captain while he is still in the brig

[2020-08-26 02:19:17.747] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Cap…” (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 151, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:22.111] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Did you promoted A guy to sec?” (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 151, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:43.205] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “NO PROMOTIONS” (Brig Control (110, 170, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:48.134] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “NO PROMOTIONS” (Brig Control (110, 170, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:52.133] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “C: andrew” (Bridge (106, 134, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:50.401] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “CAPTAIN” (Brig Control (110, 170, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:53.886] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “YOU CHUCKLEFUCK” (Brig Control (110, 170, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:19:56.545] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “Andrew” (Bridge (106, 134, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:04.437] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “I dont mean to be rude, but your a shit hos” (Bridge (106, 134, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:16.406] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “You kinda need the help you can get” (Bridge (106, 134, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:19.690] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “I may be A shit HOS. but at least im not as shit as you” (Brig Control (112, 174, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:21.926] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “so fuck off” (Security Office (114, 174, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:36.505] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “What you gonna do? subvert the AI as HoS against the cap?” (Bridge (106, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:45.007] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “Now who would do that” (Bridge (113, 131, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:20:59.812] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Desmond moment” (Brig (111, 162, 2))

Humanlike confronting Captain at Bridge

[2020-08-26 02:21:45.295] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “cap just promoted A random guy to sec off” (Bridge (101, 131, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:21:55.228] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “You are really tryna cause trouble” (Bridge (102, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:21:57.094] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “Stop it” (Bridge (102, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:03.469] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “YOU LITERALLY” (Bridge (105, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:05.625] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “PROMOTED” (Bridge (105, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:09.346] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “SOMEONE TO SECURITY” (Bridge (105, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:09.439] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “If you wanna say shit, say it over command comms” (Bridge (102, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:13.429] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “WITHOUT MY PERMISSION” (Bridge (105, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:18.124] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “andrew” (Bridge (105, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:24.471] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “stop saying shit over general comms” (Bridge (105, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:27.277] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “its causing issues” (Bridge (105, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:32.928] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “your just tryna start shit” (Bridge (105, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:35.429] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Uh huh” (Bridge (103, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:36.121] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you absolute bafoon” (Bridge (105, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:45.548] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “says the guy that promoted A random guy to sec off” (Bridge (103, 135, 2))

Humanlike trying to "convince" the Captain to change their mind

[2020-08-26 02:22:54.303] GAME: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) fired /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (45u) from a pepperspray at Bridge (111, 136, 2).
[2020-08-26 02:22:56.375] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “bad” (Bridge (111, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:22:58.392] GAME: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) fired /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (40u) from a pepperspray at Bridge (111, 136, 2).
[2020-08-26 02:22:58.850] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “dude” (Bridge (112, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:02.133] GAME: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) fired /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (35u) from a pepperspray at Bridge (111, 136, 2).
[2020-08-26 02:23:03.869] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “hes a scientist” (Bridge (112, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:04.903] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you” (Bridge (112, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:06.206] GAME: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) fired /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (30u) from a pepperspray at Bridge (111, 136, 2).
[2020-08-26 02:23:13.536] ATTACK: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) has stunned SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) (NEWHP: 95) (Bridge (113, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:16.471] ATTACK: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) has stunned SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) (NEWHP: 95) (Bridge (113, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:17.389] ATTACK: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) has stunned SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) (NEWHP: 95) (Bridge (113, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:18.242] ATTACK: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) has stunned SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) (NEWHP: 95) (Bridge (113, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:23.152] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “DEMOTE HIM” (Bridge (113, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:24.407] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “BACK” (Bridge (113, 135, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:30.127] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “YOU REATR D” (Bridge (104, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:33.844] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “because I baton’d a scientist on bridge” (Bridge (112, 134, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:36.913] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “No?” (Bridge (105, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:37.003] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “actually a fuckin tard” (Bridge (112, 134, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:39.277] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “HE LITERALLY” (Bridge (105, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:43.053] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “PROMOTED A GUY” (Bridge (104, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:44.689] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “TO SEC OFF” (Bridge (104, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:23:46.902] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “WITHOUT PERMISSION” (Bridge (104, 136, 2))

Captain getting back up and after subduing Humanlike

[2020-08-26 02:24:11.863] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you fuckin” (Bridge (108, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:12.799] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “idiot” (Bridge (108, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:13.858] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “borg” (Bridge (107, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:15.134] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “law 2” (Bridge (107, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:17.613] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “law 1” (Bridge (108, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:17.681] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “uncuff” (Bridge (107, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:20.362] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “he is causing harm” (Bridge (108, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:21.818] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Captain is A idiot” (Bridge (107, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:24.699] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “literally fighting people” (Bridge (108, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:27.089] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “and coudld cause harm” (Bridge (107, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:30.178] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “I DINT USE LETHALS” (Bridge (109, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:31.920] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you are being” (Bridge (109, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:36.405] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “RANK DOESNT MATTER” (Bridge (109, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:39.657] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “demoted” (Bridge (108, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:42.545] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “READ SILICON POLICYT” (Bridge (109, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:24:44.734] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “STUN BATONING” (Bridge (109, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:10.117] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “HARM INTENT” (Bridge (104, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:12.102] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “DRAG SPRITE” (Bridge (104, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:14.878] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “MY SPRITE” (Bridge (104, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:16.216] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “TYO YOU” (Bridge (104, 137, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:37.748] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Law one” (Bridge (104, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:40.020] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Cap is A idiot” (Bridge (104, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:42.077] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “I already demoted him” (Bridge (105, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:46.345] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “by promoting A random guyt” (Bridge (105, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:48.570] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “to be A sec off” (Bridge (105, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:50.305] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you literally” (Bridge (106, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:53.861] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “cant just stun people” (Bridge (106, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:57.862] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Uh huh” (Bridge (105, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:25:58.345] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “cause they did something you dont like” (Bridge (106, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:00.211] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “its WA warining baton” (Bridge (107, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:01.502] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “BORG” (Bridge (108, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:03.622] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “LAW ONE HELP ME” (Bridge (108, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:08.253] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “thats not how it works” (Bridge (109, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:10.112] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “law 2 stop” (Bridge (110, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:11.173] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Welp local HOS promotes A geneticist” (Bridge (110, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:15.832] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “To A security officer” (Bridge (104, 138, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:19.727] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “meanwhile im being demoted” (Bridge (103, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:25.971] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Very epic 10/10 unbased sec off” (Bridge (103, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:28.672] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “cap” (Bridge (103, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:36.402] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “yeah” (Bridge (103, 136, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:26:38.247] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #3: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals): Cap is being A asshole for no fucking reason

After looking over this, if other admins suggest this I think a MRP ban is also needed, probably a week or two (with the job ban extended to continue after the server ban). The conversation I had with humanlike is around a hour long and I can post the highlights of that if requested. Mainly consisted of going around in circles with humanlike wanting the captain to be banned, refusing to understand what they did wrong, and acting like he was in the right and the captain committed a war crime.

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Fun fact: There’s a identification console in your office that you could of used to demote said security officer.

This seems like gross incompetence and is one of the biggest tantrums I’ve seen in awhile. I don’t understand why you’d think it was okay to stun and pepperspray the Captain. The chain of command exists for a reason. I’m surprised the Captain didn’t execute you for mutiny to be honest.

My opinion is, the ban should stick due to repeated offenses of head incompetence.

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ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #3: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals): Cap is being A asshole for no fucking reason

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Here are some more logs of how you’ve acted in that round:

Humanlike refering to what the captain had done (if it was a cloud of irony, it would be thick enough to cut a hole in it)

[2020-08-26 02:28:13.796] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Prickly_tomato/(Alexandra Mcloskey): Powertripping of the highest fukcing order

Humanlike preparing revenge

[2020-08-26 02:28:41.176] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Det” (Locker Room (122, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:28:44.127] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “give me gun please” (Locker Room (122, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:28:47.037] SAY: Idea101/(Johnny Red) “No” (Locker Room (123, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:28:49.701] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “fucking cap is A dumbass” (Locker Room (123, 149, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:28:50.507] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “also” (Locker Room (123, 149, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:28:51.150] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “gangs” (Locker Room (123, 149, 2))

Humanlike making a cloud of Irony so thick, he's cutting it into slices for a sandwich

[2020-08-26 02:41:51.842] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Prickly_tomato/(Alexandra Mcloskey): cap dint RP promoting the gene to sec off. AT ALL
[2020-08-26 02:42:16.248] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Prickly_tomato/(Alexandra Mcloskey): I AM THE CAPTAIN NO ONE TELLS ME WHAT TO DO

Humanlike arguing with the captain over comms

[2020-08-26 02:46:04.455] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you stunned me about 5 times” (Surgery (80, 98, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:07.390] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “you mongaloid” (Surgery (80, 98, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:08.626] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Warning stuns” (Garden (141, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:10.882] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Did I cuff you?” (Garden (141, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:11.989] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “at all?” (Garden (141, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:16.311] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “Checkmate Atheist” (Garden (141, 150, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:20.913] SAY: SaltyPenguin25/(Desmond Lyle) “theres a chain of command for a reason” (Surgery (80, 98, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:21.724] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “still what?” (Garden (141, 152, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:26.433] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “You literally” (Garden (141, 152, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:46:30.639] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “promoted A random guy” (Garden (141, 152, 2))

Humanlike ramblings

[2020-08-26 02:47:41.512] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “I STUNNED YOU SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY DEMOTE SEC OFF” (Garden (144, 152, 2))

[2020-08-26 02:48:11.868] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Prickly_tomato/(Alexandra Mcloskey): Oh wow. cap is being A dickhead and im the one in the wrong?

[2020-08-26 02:48:38.813] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “AND CENTCOM IS FUCKING BANNING ME FROM HEADS JOBS BECAUSE I MADE A REPORT ON YOU” (Dormitories (142, 164, 2))
[2020-08-26 02:48:42.897] SAY: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals) “FUCKING GREAT” (Dormitories (142, 164, 2))

quotes from Humanlike's and trailmin Yorpan's conversations

[2020-08-26 03:03:24.241] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Yorpan/(Yorpan): I dint really harm cap. just stunned him. because he was being incompetent.
[2020-08-26 03:03:36.845] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Yorpan/(Yorpan): no cuffing. even though I could
[2020-08-26 03:05:00.431] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Yorpan/(Yorpan): since there was no reason to promote A random guy to become A sec off out of the blue and dint even notify him. I think stunning him for A couple of seconds is good enough

[2020-08-26 03:16:07.845] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Yorpan/(Yorpan): Pretty sure you could subvert CoC if cap was incompetent?
[2020-08-26 03:16:47.759] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Yorpan/(Yorpan)->Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals): sure, but promoting a random sec officer is not enough to classify as incompetence
[2020-08-26 03:17:16.068] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Humanlike/(Andrew Ryals)->Yorpan/(Yorpan): random geneticist that could be A traitor to A sec officer seems like enough to me though

And consent from Yorii to post those quotes so no one can sue me for leaking
CYOA

Subverting the chain of command on MRP is something which is generally handled IC for non-command jobs, but doing so as an actual head of staff is something admins will take action on.
This all boils down to the ruling that headroles are held to a higher standard on MRP and thus I support this appeal being denied.

Now that I have read all the logs, yes think the ban needs to stay for sure.

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Due to the recent Perma ERP ban (and just a general accumulation of problems), going to go ahead and deny this appeal