Fucus Banned by Admin PowerfulBacon

**CKEY:**Fucus

**Admin’s CKEY:**PowerfulBacon

**Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one:**Just one. MRP

**Which server did the ban happen on?**MRP

**Ban Type:**Temporary

**Ban Length:**7 days

**Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY):**05/12/2020

**Round ID:**15839

**Ban Reason:**Killing a clown IPC for slipping them, then tabled and stole 4k from the CMO because they didn’t lets him drag around the IPCs body for a few minutes for dropping a banana…
**Appeal Reason:**The admin applied the ban before i had the time to post my
full reasoning.

Additional Information: Lets start with the beginning as now i’m not stunned over and over by the security and i can explain the situation better.

All started with this IPC clown (who was actually a lawyer with clown outfit) who didn’t slipped me but the entire station as he kept dropping banana peels everywhere. In EVA room the same IPC clown hit with a toolbox and because of the previous events, i decided to throw a spear at him and leave however i wasn’t actually aware that the spear killed him as he didn’t gave out that distinct sound of an IPC dying only after i returned several moments later. The CMO shows up and try to take the body and perhaps resurect it. I grab the body and tell the CMO that the clown is making a mess all over the station but he doesn’t listen and drags the clown anyway. I fight with CMO over the body where he pulls a flash and tries to stun me but slips on a banana peel and drops the flash where i take the flash, flash them and take the body away. The CMO finds me and we fight over the body some more however, a medic takes the body and runs away without the chance to explain what the clown did. For that, i decide to flash CMO one more time before asking him to talk. Her simply refuses shoving me constantly for what, i begin to chainflash her, slip out her card, steal her money (the mentioned 4k) and run.

First of all, if i knew that I had killed the IPC dude i wouldn’t had fought over his body in the first place however, he died because of me and for that, I agree that there could be a reason for the ban. However, in my defense, as the logs might reveal, the dead of that dude wasn’t the reason of the ahelp.

Second, the chainflash and the stolen money was because the CMO refused to reason with me at all, even after the body was secured away by another medic. In my defense, they wanted to use the flash one me first and when they dropped down, i simply made use of the opportunity.

In conclusion, i believe that my actions could have been punished with ease (Maybe not the accidental kill) ingame (something that was already undergoing) instead of an admin intervention and maybe not surely not for that long of a ban.

Rundown of events

Obviously, it is clear there is a lot of slipping on bananas, however looking at the positions, the first log is you slipping on 1 banana peel being logged >10 times for some reason, taking damage by using an electricuted door.

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:23:58.414] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 163, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:23:59.868] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 163, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:04.362] ATTACK: [Atrium] has electrocuted Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 75.8)  (Atrium (150, 163, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:19.051] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:19.726] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:21.029] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:21.679] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:22.317] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:22.929] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:23.544] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:24.790] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:25.420] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:26.707] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:27.278] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:28.093] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:28.678] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:34.858] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 165, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:41.726] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 155, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:42.321] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 155, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:43.294] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 155, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:44.034] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 155, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:44.741] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 155, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:51.168] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 155, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:24:57.961] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has grabbed Weerribben/(Shaun Frost) passive grab (NEWHP: 72.5)  (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 151, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:00.548] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 151, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:03.238] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has grabbed Weerribben/(Shaun Frost) passive grab (NEWHP: 72.5)  (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 151, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:06.308] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 151, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:12.115] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 151, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:15.024] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has thrown the banana peel (Fore Primary Hallway (152, 152, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:19.498] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has thrown the banana peel (Central Primary Hallway (152, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:25.814] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has thrown the banana peel (Central Primary Hallway (151, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:34.707] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has applied Fucus/(Borat Todyr) with the medical spray (silver sulfadiazine) /datum/reagent/medicine/silver_sulfadiazine (60u) (NEWHP: 75.8)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:34.710] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/silver_sulfadiazine (60u)) from the medical spray (silver sulfadiazine) to Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 84.5)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:34.710] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/silver_sulfadiazine (50u)) from the medical spray (silver sulfadiazine) to Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 84.5)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:35.659] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has applied Fucus/(Borat Todyr) with the medical spray (silver sulfadiazine) /datum/reagent/medicine/silver_sulfadiazine (50u) (NEWHP: 84.5)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:35.663] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/silver_sulfadiazine (50u)) from the medical spray (silver sulfadiazine) to Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 92.1)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:25:35.663] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/silver_sulfadiazine (40u)) from the medical spray (silver sulfadiazine) to Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 92.1)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 148, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:13.695] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has grabbed MajinMew1/(Cherry Lax) passive grab (NEWHP: 20.2)  (Medbay Central (165, 98, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:34.488] ATTACK: Amnestics/(Harvey Harvey Harvey) has threw and hit Fucus/(Borat Todyr) with the snowball (NEWHP: 91)  (Medbay Central (158, 100, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:35.416] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Medbay Central (161, 100, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:36.321] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [banana peel] (Medbay Central (161, 100, 2))

After this you being shoving a guy in crit for seemingly no reason (context is hard to infer from the logs, so an explanation would be nice here).

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:26:57.173] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Wisakejak/(Marabunta) with knocking them down (NEWHP: -156.2)  (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:58.364] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has kicks Wisakejak/(Marabunta) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: -157.2)  (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:58.365] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Wisakejak/(Marabunta) with knocking them down (NEWHP: -157.2)  (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:26:59.836] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Wisakejak/(Marabunta) with knocking them down (NEWHP: -157.2)  (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:27:00.966] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Wisakejak/(Marabunta) with knocking them down (NEWHP: -158.2)  (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:27:03.367] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Wisakejak/(Marabunta) (NEWHP: -159.2)  (Aft Primary Hallway (150, 78, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:27:43.001] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (153, 104, 2))

After eating a lolipop from a borg, you shove Clark Werner in the hallway for no reason

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:28:11.558] ATTACK: Jangobets/(Clark Werner) has kicks Fucus/(Borat Todyr) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 93.6)  (Central Primary Hallway (157, 104, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:11.559] ATTACK: Jangobets/(Clark Werner) has shoved Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 93.6)  (Central Primary Hallway (157, 104, 2))

However your random shoving for no reason was interupted by a slippy situation.

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:28:24.240] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:39.654] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 104, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:39.995] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:40.807] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 106, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:41.617] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:42.424] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 104, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:44.298] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has slipped on the [synthesized banana peel] (Central Primary Hallway (164, 104, 2))

You continue to shove Clark over and over, stunning them a few times while they are trying to heal. (At this point I have not been able to find and logs of anyone hitting you)

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:28:50.484] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has kicks Jangobets/(Clark Werner) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:50.485] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Jangobets/(Clark Werner) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (158, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:52.385] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Jangobets/(Clark Werner) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Central (157, 103, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:53.456] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Jangobets/(Clark Werner) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Central (157, 103, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:28:54.530] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Jangobets/(Clark Werner) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Medbay Central (157, 103, 2))

After slipping some more, you then go and shove this person for no reason.

Summary

[2020-05-12 20:29:10.700] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Isy232/(Luminous Silkworm) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Primary Hallway (152, 105, 2))

And then you shove and pick them back up again.

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:29:32.659] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has kicks Isy232/(Luminous Silkworm) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (153, 106, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:29:32.660] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Isy232/(Luminous Silkworm) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (153, 106, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:29:35.032] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shaken Isy232/(Luminous Silkworm) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (154, 105, 2))

After some time you come into contact with Indiana Robo Jones, the IPC clown and repeatedly shove them over and over while they continue to lose health, most likely due to

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:30:26.445] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) (NEWHP: 93.6)  (Aft Primary Hallway (153, 100, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:27.935] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 90.1)  (Aft Primary Hallway (152, 101, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:29.622] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 87)  (Aft Primary Hallway (152, 102, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:30.603] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 87)  (Aft Primary Hallway (152, 102, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:31.919] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) (NEWHP: 82.7)  (Aft Primary Hallway (152, 102, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:35.012] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 79.6)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:35.912] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 79.4)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:36.932] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 74.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:45.762] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 49.3)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:47.022] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 42.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:48.208] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 42.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:49.326] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 42.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:50.464] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 36.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:51.560] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 36.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:52.710] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 30.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:53.857] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 30.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:54.371] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has stripped the dark green space suit off Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) (NEWHP: 30.9)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:55.131] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has kicks Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 26.8)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:55.132] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 26.8)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:30:59.796] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 24.7)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:00.955] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 24.7)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:02.219] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has kicks Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 24.7)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:02.220] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) (NEWHP: 24.7)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))

This beating is interupted by you randomly shoving over a man in a plant pot.

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:31:17.420] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Xemhil/(Plant) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (144, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:21.736] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Xemhil/(Plant) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (148, 106, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:23.044] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Xemhil/(Plant) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (150, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:24.982] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has kicks Xemhil/(Plant) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (151, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:24.983] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Xemhil/(Plant) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (151, 105, 2))

This is followed by you randomly shoving Nancy Druid for no reason.

Summary

[2020-05-12 20:31:31.378] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Not megatron/(Nancy Druid) (NEWHP: 100) (EVA Storage (141, 110, 2))

After all of this, the first retaliation is had, with the person you stunned shoving you back

Summary

[2020-05-12 20:31:41.359] ATTACK: Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) has kicked Fucus/(Borat Todyr) (NEWHP: 88) (EVA Storage (138, 113, 2))

This is immediately met with you attacking them and throwing a spear at them, which you had why?

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:31:45.355] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has attacked Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with spear (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 17.2)  (EVA Storage (139, 112, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:54.187] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has thrown the spear (EVA Storage (140, 110, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:31:54.189] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has threw and hit Nivvy/(Indiana Robo Jones) with the spear (NEWHP: -11.8)  (EVA Storage (140, 110, 2))

At the point Rachel comes along and attempts to take the IPC clown to be healed

Summary

[2020-05-12 20:34:01.594] ATTACK: *no key*/(Indiana Robo Jones) has pulled from Fucus/(Borat Todyr) with Rachel Kozlowsky (NEWHP: 92.5) (EVA Storage (140, 107, 2))

This is met by you shoving them onto a table.

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:34:22.126] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Naevi/(Rachel Kozlowsky) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (152, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:34:27.128] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has shoved Naevi/(Rachel Kozlowsky) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 100)  (Central Primary Hallway (152, 105, 2))

The CMO then pulls the IPC from you

Summary

[2020-05-12 20:35:09.678] ATTACK: Naevi/(Rachel Kozlowsky) has grabbed Fucus/(Borat Todyr) passive grab (NEWHP: 92.5) (Central Primary Hallway (147, 104, 2))

At some point the CMO dropped their flash, so you use that against them

Summary
[2020-05-12 20:35:17.003] ATTACK: *no key*/(Indiana Robo Jones) has pulled from Fucus/(Borat Todyr) with Rachel Kozlowsky (NEWHP: 92.5)  (Central Primary Hallway (139, 105, 2))
[2020-05-12 20:35:30.202] ATTACK: Fucus/(Borat Todyr) has flashed(targeted) Naevi/(Rachel Kozlowsky) with the flash (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Primary Hallway (153, 92, 2))

And from there you stole their ID and budget card, using the excuse they didn’t want to RP with you, when all round you have been shoving people for no reason at all.

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Could not post full logs due to space limitations

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I was the CMO that round, and the IPC clown didnt die, but they were in crit and about to die anytime, they were found gladly to their maxed sensors. This is my job to rescue and treat people, and you refused to let them go, so i decided to take flash in hand in case you grab him and run away again, however there were hidden banana peel on the floor, I slipped, and thats when you decide to take it from me and grab the body away. I obsiously couldn’t let random person die there, and i found your reason to kill them ridiculous. i found you in maint near robotics, tried to grab the body away again, then my medic who followed me took the body away, i shove you away, and you fall down. then you stand up, and start flash locking me on the ground and stole credits that were supossed to go for medical supplies.

Ok, first of all, as i mentioned before and as how i was been informed by the admin, i thought the IPC dude was already dead and later informed that it was me who killed him.

Second, the spear i used to attack the IPC dude was lying down in EVA so i simply took it but as the IPC dude attacked me, i used it to attack him back and left it there when i throwed it him.

Third, I don’t really remember shoving any critted guy, it might indeed shoved someone who quickly fell critted before i shoved him, i really don’t remember the context but neither to shove anyone who was critted or to crit someone with my shoves.

Forth, I did indeed shoved and slipped a lot of people that round but honestly it was out of fun rather than harming someone. I do remember people slipping and shoving me too in reply, however, it’s a bad habit i picked from LRP servers and i try to keep myself more and more from doing it.

In conclusion. Now that i understand that the IPC dude wasn’t really dead i also understand why the CMO fighted so much over the body while refusing to speak with me. I play myself as a medic often and i know as well how fast can a critted person die.

For the stolen credits, i don’t really steal credits from anyone but rather from them i feel not worthy of them. In what i thought was the case, a CMO who doesn’t cooperate with it’s crew. I also didn’t kept those credits anyway, i gave them to QM who he could better purpose them.

(Also quick note, you as CMO seen yourself how bad can be a dude spilling banana peels everywhere when you dropped your flash down.)

My main issue is that we are a roleplay server and you spent the entire round shoving people over being annoying and wanted to drag around the body of someone you killed as a punishment, and then used the CMO not wanting to RP as an excuse to attack them. I would like some opinions from @GameAdmin to have a see what they think.

Forth, I did indeed shoved and slipped a lot of people that round but honestly it was out of fun rather than harming someone

This isn’t fun. This is bad RP and shitter behavior trying to pick fights with others for no good reason, and spearing someone as soon as they shove back is especially bad (and would get you beaned for self antag even on Golden)

Having read the logs, and hearing the reasoning from both sides, I think this ban should stick. Shitter behavior in general, and over-escalation to the point of self-antag met with a week-long ban doesn’t even seem like enough of a ban to me given your past record on Sage.

You’ve been banned for five days, two weeks and a month already before, so I really think this should be upped to another month and serve as a final warning before permanent removal from Sage for continued rule-breaks, to be more in-line with the escalation of punishment we’ve gone to against most cases lately.

I can agree with a lot towards my game
play. But I generally RP when situation allows me to. Medical Doctor job and specially CMO and paramedic, is really intense and often demanding job. I have to act quickly, use the best and fastest configuration possible to make my patients survive.

I really didn’t feel like arguing with you while the person was about to die. Rather I would stabilize them and then solve the problem. Apart from that. I use medical budget a lot and communicate with medical crew a lot while taking role of CMO, so I was really using those credits. And I can’t agree with me just being unresponsible and not giving them a good use.

Medical money always goes to synthflesh, extra medkits, blood packs and such to make players survival and recovery easier.

My opinion here aligns with Ruko, going to reject this appeal unless any other admins have any other opinions.

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