[Fighterslam] Player Report - By Xarnata/Ziagfu

In-game report:

   CKEY: Ziagfu

   Your Discord: Dragon Blooded

   Offender’s CKEY: Fighterslam

   LRP or MRP server: MRP

   Offender’s In-Game Name: Everett GArrison

   Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 03-16-2020

   Round Number: Round 13507 Round 13508

Rules Broken: Rule 1: Aiding someone in breaking rule 8 as antag. (round 13507) Rule 4: Self antagging by preventing a confirmed traitor (Same guy from prior round who powergamed) from being moved to brig for processing, which led to him nearly escaping from other self antaggers. Rule 13: Allowing unhindered access to upload as a.i. before breaking Rule 2 after having his laws reset (When it was told to me that he was NOT in fact subverted), SEVERAL counts of Rule 2 and 13 over the course of the round that broke silicone conduct by causing mass crew harm on Crewsimov with 2 low priority laws that held no weight.

Incident Description: Round 13507: As an antag, dragged around a non antag (joey) for ‘space exploration’ but consistantly avoided doing such:


Middle of the round when the then crew harming Everett and potentially crew harming Joey were in brig, being handed weapons by Squessa Quinn, who was told of Joey’s posession of contrand while I atempted to shoot him with disablers and kept hitting a drawer. Squessa left the warden’s office and immediaetly began shooting at me with a projectile gun. I moved myself into perma where she continued to try and shoot me while being questioned and told to go after the crew harmer, Everett. This led to a lockdown, a drag and emag by Everett. I went from being told to destroy the a.i, to stopping (which was done as I was told) then to evacuate, as told, to being shot by Joey. As I Was flashed, I’m not sure if Everett called him to the evac pod, or if he was metacommed to travel there.
When the round ended and the two were in the escape pod, discussing everett’s traitor activity, the non-antag Joey made note to reference that I, as elder construct who had been declaring Everett as a traitor for their actions and equipment with him as a potential blood brother due to his own self antagging and powergaming behaviors of having made clear note of stolen goods on his persons (Chemist wearing CMO gear, unaware of the level of stolen gear), ‘had it coming’. Even though I made no move to attack Joey after being emagged, simply flashed and shot to death only able to get out 3 lasor shots in defense.

Round 13508: As CMO, I began setting up typical medbay, getting my low pop crew set to work. Travel to security to try and get sec huds or sunglasses because some guy flashes one of my workers thinking it might be revs. Hear someone breaking into something around the cap’s locker area. Hear a honk, think it’s the clown. Rush to bridge and see the HoP, drag the HoP to find the one and only Joey. He’s stolen the hand tele and is in cap’s quarters. He’s captured after some hand tele fuckery and taken into cap’s quarters. His bag is taken off and he’s found to be a traitor with some weapons, a box kit for the plutonium core and other cap shit. The bag is dumped onto the table (Easy way to show you’re not planting shit, because planting leaves a message of [name] puts [item] into [bag]). Tries to say I’m framing him. Me and HoP lock down the cap’s quarters while talking about the traitor. He shouts he’s being killed, Clown and several others rush to Captain’s office with weapons out and ask to be let in. Everett lets them in with visible weapons (Mosly Kinetic crusher from a miner, waht looked like a knife on a chef). We take the traitor to sec while tons of fucking rubberneckers (3-4) flood the command area. I stay behind a few moments to clean up everything and make it orderly. CE enters as I finish up and go to sec to see the processing. They’ve not yet arrived (Due to the security doors being bolted shut by the a.i. who just so happens to be Everett Garrison.) Actions make me believe that Everett willingly let himself be subverted, ruined my damn mood for a second metabuddy round in a row with these two. So, I deal with it, fend of some fucking rubberneckers trying to free a damn confirmed traitor as we get the doors unbolted. I deal with the self antagging shaft miner who is going off of comms channel only of the guy constantly screaming ‘they’re killing me!’ even though he hadn’t been harmed (I had only just started to grab the guy by the neck to keep him still, might have started strangling, but only just long enough to keep him still for a sec officer to arrive and take care of the processing. I go off after the miner boy comes at me again and gets flashed yet again to check on the a.i’s laws. I open the door and he turns off his turrets. At this point I don’t trust him to leave them off (under suspicion of subversion thanks to the guy even getting INTO the captain’s office, and metabuddy’s growing frustration), so I dive in, grab the chips on one table, quarentine and reset. I toss quarentine onto the table and rush to click the computer console to make sure I’m targeting everett’s laws, dive one final time to reset his laws and the door closes, bolts and the tazers start shooting. HoP comes in and I try to tell him what I’m doing and exactly why I’m doing it. HoP for some reason does not believe me despite we both having just recently apprehended Joey and him having been in the bridge. He even is purvey to the fact that I dropped the reset laws chip. Takes me to do a search in security, on the way there the shaft miner once again attacks me, this time with a toolbox due to me having taken his last method of assault, a K.A. and resumed pressing matters. We arrive in security and hop beings strip searching me in the hallway, just the two of us. IN WALKS SQUESSA FUCKING QUINN with that god damn miner hot on her trail with his toolbox. Miner instantly steps up to my stuff and begins looting while I tell the HoP why I had the KA. Squessa however, had gone straight to perma to chat with Joey (Not as predominant of meta as Joey/Everett, but still a little suspicious). Returns JUST in time to see the miner take the telescopic baton. Does absolutely nothing about it. Takes me to perma while conversin with Everett directly on security channel. Tells me its ‘her job to do what she thinks is right’. Puts me in perma despite my informing her it’s her job to follow NT law with reason opposed to whatever the hell she decided to do. At this point I was absolutely fucking livid at the actions that just kept growing and growing to be metabuddying and potentially metacomming by Joey/Everett and potentially Quinn as well that my ahelps shifted from simple reports of rules being broken, to requests of being gibbed. Answered by a cursed revolver, two shots done to myself before Quinn or Everett opened the divider that prevented Joey from attacking me to finish me off. Once I had been finished off and dragged into the bathroom for some reason, I was finally gibbed. My report would have ended there were it not for remaining to observe what happened there after.

After my death, I witnessed sec being raided by a bartender and someone else. The bartender was subdued (Dead) and taken to perma with all of his equipment remaining on. I’m unsure if it was done by Quinn or another sec officer. however later in the shift, I had taken a moment to relax and spawned in as a positronic. Turns out that Joey had been let out of perma. Despite having shown to attack and finish me off in front of at LEAST Quinn, QUINN HERSELF RELEASED HIM according to everett (Revealed after he blew all the borgs). After being blown (And dealing with a good deal of new roboticist issues) I went to ghost and observe once more. Everett had been law 2’d to ‘Turn off all the apcs’, a violation of law 1 he carried out completely depowering the main breakers to all the apcs. instead of a more viable NON-violation of turning off the equipment power to all apcs. This was pointed out by Phyllis.borg. Then when everything was de-powered, and I made sure to have my pda vision on in ghost, I watched as Joey made his way to the a.i. chamber, which was de-powered. No conversation was made between Joey and Everett, but I watched as everett’s a.i. eye wandered over to the power stations on the A.I. Satellite to re-power the SAT doors, unbolt them as Joey ran through to quickly card the a.i. every door unbolting along the way. Only after he had gotten into the final area showing that he had sleeping carp and the final two doors to the core unbolted did he announce that he was being attacked by joey with sleeping carp. When Phyllis borg attempted to non-harmfully subdue Joey, without Joey saying anything Everett told the borg to stop, to which Phyllis clearly stated that Joey had proven harmful to crew. Joey and Phyllis began a battle of attrition of locking doors and hacking them trying to keep the traitor on station. Failed, everett had then ghosted in some way before the shuttle arrived and had not been connected since.

Additional Information: This had me so pissed off that I had to take a shift off entirely just to do ghost roles and erts. Still pissed off about it. Especially since I can’t salt it.

The round 13507 report isn’t about Everett, since antags can do what they want (except metagame) and Everett was a traitor.

Joey earned a note that round for having most of the armory in their backpack as well as walking around with the CMO’s hardsuit all round.

The main content of the report focuses on round 13508, where Everett was AI.

My main interaction with that round as a player was spawning in as the HoS, getting a meth fueled drink at the bar, and spending my last moments trying to shoot the barkeep while my screen shook worse than during an earthquake.

Rest of the round I was doing minor admin things and watching JJBA.

Alright, I’m going to tackle this as best I can, expect a post after like two hours since this is two different rounds to go through.

I don’t see major issues with 13506 (not 13507, that was an LRP round) because like bloons said, he was a traitor. Not only was he a traitor, but he convinced the HoP to make him the new HoS after killing the HoS, so having squessica come to his aid as a security officer isn’t that out there.

Me and HoP lock down the cap’s quarters while talking about the traitor. He shouts he’s being killed, Clown and several others rush to Captain’s office with weapons out and ask to be let in. Everett lets them in with visible weapons (Mosly Kinetic crusher from a miner, waht looked like a knife on a chef).

@fighterslam Two heads are attempting to apprehend someone, and you’ve sided against them by allowing armed people into the captain’s office on the word of the person being apprehended before harm has taken place. Explain

We take the traitor to sec while tons of fucking rubberneckers (3-4) flood the command area. I stay behind a few moments to clean up everything and make it orderly. CE enters as I finish up and go to sec to see the processing.

Actually before this took place… this happened.

[2020-03-16 06:11:32.132] SAY: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) “YOU REALISE THE HOP CAN BE ANTAG TOO” (Brig (78, 170, 2))

OOC in IC.

[2020-03-16 06:12:08.387] ATTACK: Ziagfu/(Xarnata Daemos) has strangled Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) kill grab (NEWHP: 79.3) (Fore Primary Hallway (94, 166, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:09.404] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) (HOLOPAD in Fore Primary Hallway (94, 167, 2)) “stop strangling joey” (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:09.699] SAY: Visigothmommy/(Squessica Quinn) “HOP” (Fore Primary Hallway (94, 167, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:10.053] EMOTE: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) gasps! (Fore Primary Hallway (94, 166, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:11.654] SAY: Ziagfu/(Xarnata Daemos) “A.I.” (Fore Primary Hallway (94, 166, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:11.946] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) (HOLOPAD in Fore Primary Hallway (94, 167, 2)) “STOP STRANGLING JOEY” (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))[2020-03-16 06:12:18.297] SAY: Ziagfu/(Xarnata Daemos) “Eitehr you stop” (Fore Primary Hallway (93, 166, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:19.899] SAY: Ziagfu/(Xarnata Daemos) “being malf” (Fore Primary Hallway (93, 166, 2))
[2020-03-16 06:12:22.609] SAY: Ziagfu/(Xarnata Daemos) “or I’m going to blow you” (Fore Primary Hallway (93, 166, 2))

And here you’ve both shown your intent to harm crew and threatened to blow the AI, which ultimately justifies the AI acting against you on law 1 for the rest of the round. It doesn’t matter if the antagonist is confirmed (especially if only to you + HoP), you have proven intent to harm them and AI law one takes precedence from here out.

You’ve also drawn the suspicion of the entire crew by this point because of how loudly joey whined and how much he spammed up chat. Joey should ALSO have had suspicions raised against him, however.

I’m going to skip a lot of the rest of your report from here, because from reading it and by your own admission, you were quite salty about perceived metabuddies by that point and I think it was clouding your judgement substantially.

The whole situation is fairly murky, but you went from being accused of being a traitor yourself straight to AI upload.

Onto the rest of the report that’s important though:

Everett had been law 2’d to ‘Turn off all the apcs’, a violation of law 1 he carried out completely depowering the main breakers to all the apcs. instead of a more viable NON-violation of turning off the equipment power to all apcs. This was pointed out by Phyllis.borg.

[2020-03-16 07:04:57.857] GAME: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has recalled the shuttle.
[2020-03-16 07:05:33.738] TCOMMS: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) [Common] (spans: robot command_headset ) “For once that wasn’t me.” (language: Galactic Common) (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:05:42.543] SAY: Ricardo Jebediah/(Neon LXIX) “ai this is a law 2” (Bridge (124, 172, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:05:52.345] SAY: Ricardo Jebediah/(Neon LXIX) “cut power to EVERYWHERE that isnt the bridge” (Bridge (124, 172, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:06:00.356] TCOMMS: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) [Common] (spans: robot command_headset ) “Ok.” (language: Galactic Common) (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
(Several APCs have power cut)
[2020-03-16 07:06:55.358] TCOMMS: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) [Common] (spans: robot command_headset ) “There yougo.” (language: Galactic Common) (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))

[2020-03-16 07:12:58.289] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “What law 2?” (Space (77, 105, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:13:01.210] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “Are you daft?” (Space (77, 105, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:13:24.962] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “That causes harm.” (Space (78, 117, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:13:30.806] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “Or well, it can.” (Space (78, 124, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:13:42.147] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “People can not escape because doors are shut off.” (Space (80, 131, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:13:52.329] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “i will make an exception for departures” (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:14:00.385] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “No, I mean from their departments.” (Space (67, 148, 2))

Worth noting, the AI is superior to the Borg when it comes to law interpretation, and while I do see it as an inconvenience to the crew, I do not see it as endangering the crew under the current circumstances.

Then when everything was de-powered, and I made sure to have my pda vision on in ghost, I watched as Joey made his way to the a.i. chamber, which was de-powered. No conversation was made between Joey and Everett, but I watched as everett’s a.i. eye wandered over to the power stations on the A.I. Satellite to re-power the SAT doors, unbolt them as Joey ran through to quickly card the a.i. every door unbolting along the way.

Now this is where things get interesting, because one of two thiings actually happened here based on what the logs show.
A) Joey emagged his way up to the AI, with assistance from the AI in the form of re-powering the surrounding area for no reason (never ordered, makes no sense to only re-power the sat)
B) It goes exactly like you say and Joey did nothing to open the way, and the AI just magically knew to re-power the sat and let joey all the way in, including past turrets that he was dodging with sleeping carp.

[2020-03-16 07:15:52.308] ATTACK: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has attempted to emag [communications console] (Bridge (119, 173, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:15:59.973] SAY: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) (Syndicate announcement) “hey I really need that kit, can you help me?” (Bridge (119, 173, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:16:13.076] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “joey” (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
Worth noting this was not said over comms, just in normal say, and nothing to follow it up. I suspect the emagging was seen because of this and the following actions. Nothing was said, PDA messaged or otherwise done at all by either player before the following logs.
[2020-03-16 07:17:22.667] GAME: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) made a vocal announcement with the following message: fuck.
[2020-03-16 07:17:46.039] ATTACK: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) has turned on [MiniSat Starboard Maintenance APC] (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:17:50.724] ATTACK: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) has turned on [MiniSat Port Maintenance APC] (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:17:57.222] ATTACK: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) has turned on [MiniSat Antechamber APC] (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:01.866] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “i have a visitor” (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:04.104] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “it is joey” (AI Chamber (129, 213, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:04.922] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (132, 202, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:04.971] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (126, 202, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:06.872] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (132, 200, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:06.873] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (126, 200, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:08.487] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (132, 200, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:08.487] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (132, 202, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:08.488] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (126, 200, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:08.526] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (126, 202, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:10.436] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (132, 200, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:10.438] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (126, 200, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:14.972] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (133, 210, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:14.973] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (125, 210, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:16.483] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (125, 210, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:16.971] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (125, 218, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:16.972] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (124, 214, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:18.871] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (134, 214, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:19.470] ATTACK: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has carded Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) with the intelliCard (NEWHP: 100) (AI Chamber (129, 214, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:20.389] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (124, 214, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:20.872] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (125, 210, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:20.874] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the electrode from AI Chamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Chamber (125, 218, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:22.361] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “You know he causes harm.” (AI Satellite Antechamber (132, 194, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:24.038] ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #2: Ziagfu/(PBU-791): Everett Garrison actively assisting someone in carding him.

Because of the timing of this, I fully believe that Ziagfu was watching, and definitely believe one of my above situatons occurred.
Additionally, the following logs will exclude the turret spam

[2020-03-16 07:18:26.746] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “he has carp” (AI Satellite Antechamber (129, 205, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:38.271] ATTACK: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) has flashed(targeted) Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the flash (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (129, 195, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:40.886] ATTACK: [turret] has fired at Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) with the disabler beam from AI Satellite Antechamber (NEWHP: 90) (AI Satellite Antechamber (126, 202, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:41.633] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “borg no” (AI Satellite Antechamber (130, 195, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:55.835] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “testing” (AI Satellite Antechamber (127, 194, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:18:59.634] GAME: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has set the teleporter target to the �tracking beacon at Arrival Shuttle Hallway (83, 127, 2)
[2020-03-16 07:18:59.917] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “Ah, my radio is disabled” (AI Satellite Antechamber (127, 194, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:01.539] GAME: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has teleported from (AI Satellite Antechamber (127, 195, 2)) to (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (83, 127, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:01.540] GAME: Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz (as Chad Johnson) (Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz)) was turned into a fly person
[2020-03-16 07:19:03.389] GAME: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) has teleported from (AI Satellite Antechamber (127, 195, 2)) to (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (83, 127, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:04.368] ATTACK: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has thrown the emergency oxygen tank (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (83, 127, 2))[2020-03-16 07:19:08.901] ATTACK: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) has thrown the box (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (84, 126, 2))
2020-03-16 07:19:20.082] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “early launch” (Central Primary Hallway (92, 144, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:21.536] SAY: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) “Crew harm” (Central Primary Hallway (92, 144, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:23.699] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “You cause harm.” (Departure Lounge (86, 145, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:24.920] SAY: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) “By not letting me escape” (Central Primary Hallway (92, 144, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:27.048] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “You caused harm” (Departure Lounge (89, 145, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:29.400] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “I am preventing harm.” (Departure Lounge (89, 145, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:38.894] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “ifrelocks” (Departure Lounge (83, 145, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:19:55.993] ATTACK: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) has grabbed Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) passive grab (NEWHP: 90) (Departure Lounge (69, 152, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:00.817] ATTACK: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) has grabbed Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) passive grab (NEWHP: 90) (Departure Lounge (69, 152, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:04.876] ATTACK: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) has grabbed Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) passive grab (NEWHP: 90) (Departure Lounge (68, 152, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:20.477] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “Joey.” (Emergency Shuttle (62, 132, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:24.670] SAY: Rublax/(Joey ‘Skinhead’ Diaz) “what” (Emergency Shuttle (62, 127, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:32.192] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “Also against my laws.” (Emergency Shuttle (62, 157, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:35.814] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “In order to prevent harm and/or subversion, this unit will now self-destruct.” (Emergency Shuttle (62, 129, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:38.453] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “Have a secure day.” (Emergency Shuttle (62, 134, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:44.709] SAY: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) “i mean stop him with firelocks” (Emergency Shuttle (63, 138, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:52.233] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “I should have shut down the APCs” (Emergency Shuttle (63, 152, 2))
[2020-03-16 07:20:55.543] SAY: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) “In departures.” (Emergency Shuttle (135, 98, 12))
[2020-03-16 07:20:57.574] TCOMMS: Arbalezt/(Pretzel.Borg) [Common] (spans: robot ) “In departures.” (language: Galactic Common) (Emergency Shuttle (135, 96, 12))
[2020-03-16 07:20:59.646] GAME: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) committed suicide at Emergency Shuttle (0, 0, 0) as /mob/living/silicon/ai.
[2020-03-16 07:20:59.647] EMOTE: Fighterslam/(Everett Garrison) lets out a flurry of sparks, its screen flickering as its systems slowly halt… (Emergency Shuttle (135, 91, 12))

Quite the 180 to take there, going from helping silently and even telling borgo to stop, and suddenly deciding nah I’m gonna cuck this guy actually.

Finally some rather damning evidence at roundstart.

[2020-03-16 05:52:46.832] MENTOR: MSAY: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) : rublax whats your cord
[2020-03-16 05:52:57.512] OOC: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) “msay rublax youre in the discord right” (start area (8, 174, 1))
[2020-03-16 05:53:02.666] OOC: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) “woops that was meant” (start area (8, 174, 1))
[2020-03-16 05:53:03.937] OOC: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) “for mentor chat” (start area (8, 174, 1))
[2020-03-16 05:53:05.512] OOC: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) “ignore thaat” (start area (8, 174, 1))
[2020-03-16 05:53:20.026] MENTOR: MSAY: Rublax/(Rublax) : ?
[2020-03-16 05:53:25.667] MENTOR: MSAY: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) : are you in the discord
[2020-03-16 05:53:30.880] MENTOR: MSAY: Rublax/(Rublax) : in the server ya
[2020-03-16 05:53:56.395] MENTOR: MSAY: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) : i dont see you
[2020-03-16 05:53:58.457] MENTOR: MSAY: Fighterslam/(Fighterslam) : wot
[2020-03-16 05:54:01.213] MENTOR: MSAY: Rublax/(Rublax) : its steff
[2020-03-16 05:54:05.510] MENTOR: MSAY: Rublax/(Rublax) : with the apple profile pic

And then this conversation abruptly ends here. I wonder if it continued in discord, perhaps for the entire round?

Just wanna note AI turning off APCs doesn’t cause and cannot cause harm. Unless you lock someone in a burning room with it, you cant possibly cause any immediate harm by turning off an apc

Gonna throw in my 2 cents since I’m sort of involved as a witness to all of this.

On the first round mentioned by Xernata, when Everett was traitor, they did seem to be together all the time in a very suspicious manner but I didn’t pay much attention to this one and outside of seeing them together all the time I don’t know what happened.

Now in the AI Everett round, I think the logs pretty much hit the mark. Joey did seem to have a suspicious amount of access, but the biggest thing was the AI carding, I could control the doors in AI sat so they were not emagged, and none of the covers were open so he didn’t hack his way in either, he seems to have basically just walked in there with minimal effort from the AI to stop him, AI did not bolt down the doors and turn off the apcs, and he did nothing that would indicate breaking in. All the AI said was “carp” , I then tried to stop him by bolting down the doors on the way to the shuttle because AI said he was harming crew, I failed, then at some point AI stopped responding, which I guess it was them suiciding.

Thus, the 2 rounds compounded make me think there is at least some degree of metacomms

Also Shark-sie, ye, as long as the room is not a hazard that can be valid, but if station is a mess and the crew needs to proceed to evac, I’d argue that at the very least keeping Tcomms turned on is a necessity for preventing harm. Also, another thing to mention is that it can lead to law 2 ping pong of “ai do”, “ai don’t”, but that’s another discussion.

Just wanna note AI turning off APCs doesn’t cause and cannot cause harm. Unless you lock someone in a burning room with it, you cant possibly cause any immediate harm by turning off an apc

I agreed with this line of thinking in my post as well. In the current situation it wasn’t hazardous to crew, though it may have prevented evacuation and was kind of a silly thing to do.

Obviously unreasonable and obnoxious orders are against the rules and may be ignored.

This might even apply here, but honestly this portion of the silicon ruling is so vague I haven’t yet seen a situation in which I would be comfortable applying it. This situation included.

Definitely seems that there’s metacomms going on in the AI round, ngl.

This is 100% true as O2 lockers are scattered everywhere, half of them containing an emergency toolbox (red) that also contains an emergency crowbar (red) for depowered doors.

Sadly, we haven’t ported TG’s “press against a firelock to start prying the manual release open”, so areas that have depowered once the first person has taken that emergency crowbar are still deathtraps.

Depowering all of the APC’s is a really dick move to be honest.

hello i am joey
i do not metacomm its scummy
for ai round:
i was (obviously) a traitor
i dont know why everett turned the power back on, im assuming its because he didn’t know I had carp and thought the turrets would work on me.
I carded him because the CE needed the card as an objective
for the other round:
I took 2 energy guns that were in rechargers from sec because everett let me. he was deputy hos.
i got the auto rifle from DEEP bunker in space.
I did steal the CMO hardsuit because eva suits are aids, and the CMO we had went into cryo.
I was waiting around with everett so we could go into space. i wanted to show him the DEEP bunker that I already found.

i think you are just mad that I framed you for being a traitor and I magestically got released due to incompetent sec. also, you’re an annoying ass borg

Oh, if we’re talking about metacomming, there was a mighty suspicious game last night where fighterslam and some of his buddies were teaming up to murderbone the station, with fighterslam being a blatant changeling, armblade and all, and the other guys not being antags and collaborating with him. Perhaps the most blatant case of this was the group trying to open a crate, with fighterslam openly using his armblade. Also, one of his buddies murdered me for no reason, and was already banhammered.

i don’t metacoom is gay

can you actually tell us what happened in this game, then?

I don’t know if it’s actual metacomming, metafriending, or whatever, but you and a bunch of other guys were teaming up to screw up the station before I got there. All I know is that you and some other non-antags you were teaming up with killed most of the station (On low pop MRP no less, which is just a dick thing to do), and you used the armblade in full view of them and they didn’t care. Heck, when the round ended you were joining them in trying to crack open a crate with the armblade and they just didn’t care.

Given your history being spottier than a Pollock piece, I think suspicion is completely justifiable.

your words mean nothing if you have no evidence

I can provide the round ID- 13582

Is this ever gonna be followed up on?

Thanks for the round ID. This is on my plate to handle in the future, unless another admin wants it.

Your report didn’t get followed up on as soon as the admins knew it was about Everett Garrison.

i’ve been permabanned more than anyone else in beestation i believe
lmao

i’ve been permabanned more than anyone else in beestation i believe
lmao

You’re still here, I guess you weren’t perma banned. How does a player get banned so much “permanently” and still exist here?