Crusader vs Caelusus who has better clown gimmick

CKEY: LastCrusader105

Admin’s CKEY:
@Caecilius

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one:
Both
Ban Type:
Server
Ban Length:
Forever
Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 17/02/2020

Round ID:
12614 [lrp]
Ban Reason:
Delammed Sm as clown
Appeal Reason:
Caelusus is jealous he sucks as a clown and I’m better than him
Additional Information:
It was a round with me and another player, I announced I planned to delam Sm he had no problem with it
All of a sudden caelus gets massive hard on for some revenge and decides to bwoink me
@Caecilius seething

No meme xlyana is no fun

lastcrusader105

Delaminated the SM into a tesla as “my clown gimmick”

Type: Server

Ban Date: 2020-02-17 12:32

Expire Date: 9999-01-01 12:00

Round: 12614

Admin: whyiscaeciliustaken

That other player who was “fine with it” was bacon, who a; bwoinked you first and b; asked me to finish it for him, which I did.

You made pretty much the entire station uninhabitable.

No.

There was 4 of us, you, a traitor, someone who DCed and someone who joined late as the round was ending

A traitor on a 2 man game is pointless

Yes, but then again you wasn’t it

regardless
Me and you, soon to be no power so might as well end round there and then

Also caelus didn’t deny he’s jealous I have better clown gimmick then them

Also your response was “mad lads doing it”
And other guy said “is it delamming yet”
And no point did anyone say please don’t it would ruin the round
Cause in point your a fanny

I was a traitor and you was my target so I didn’t want to be like wtf!! or you would run away from me

You could of said hey don’t I wanna play the round
But you didn’t
We took a vote no one said no
So I did it, with the players blessing
Only for you to then turn coat in the hopes of winning caelus love

@Crossedfall get the logs boy and see at now point was I stopped
Better yet I was encouraged by the 2 others playing at the time

So, I’ve gone through the round. The only thing of note here is that @PowerfulBacon waited until a little bit after the SM exploded to notify admin team. I would have personally liked to have seen a report come in sooner, as it might have been able to prevent you from blowing the shard. But I don’t know if that vindicates you here as your overall plan is a bannable offense.

At best, you might be able to argue that Bacon saying, “Oh shit he’s actually doing it \ The madman” was him egging you on; but since he was clearly pretty annoyed with you for starting to do it once he began actually checking things out, I don’t know if I’d buy that personally.

By the time Bacon pinged you, he had already notified admin team and asked for someone to come on to help. So their “based sm delamination” comment was needless, but for the purposes of this appeal, can be ignored.

Finally, to be clear on how Bacon notified admin team, he simply stated the following, “clown delammed SM as his ‘gimmick on LRP’.” Never mentioned you by name so whatever admin offered to help wouldn’t have even known it was you until they go on. It was purely chance that it was Caecilius.

[2020-02-17 12:04:05.021] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "imma bout to delam sm" (Central Primary Hallway (126, 136, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:04:06.954] ADMIN: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) checked the player panel.
[2020-02-17 12:04:09.313] ADMIN: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) checked the individual player panel for PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) while in game.
[2020-02-17 12:04:18.167] SAY: AnOutlier/(Reed Glover) "Good going" (Genetics Lab (99, 94, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:04:30.448] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "its my clown gimmick" (Central Primary Hallway (108, 143, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:04:34.841] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "lol" (Captain's Quarters (118, 132, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:04:42.473] SAY: AnOutlier/(Reed Glover) "Nobody said something about it" (Genetics Lab (99, 94, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:04:51.453] GAME: Random Event triggering: Minor Space Dust (/datum/round_event/space_dust)
[2020-02-17 12:05:06.716] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "some of you guys are cool" (Central Primary Hallway (106, 144, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:05:15.309] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "dont go to engie tomorrow" (Central Primary Hallway (106, 144, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:05:16.444] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "Some of you guys are alright" (Cargo Bay (73, 155, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:08:40.464] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "Oh shit hes actually doing it" (Engineering Foyer (164, 132, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:08:43.237] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "The madman" (Atmospherics (164, 127, 2))
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:14:33.381] ACCESS: Logout: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind)
[2020-02-17 12:14:33.598] GAME: PowerfulBacon[DC]/(Burnard Silkwind) PowerfulBacon[DC]/(Burnard Silkwind) is no longer owning mob Burnard Silkwind(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Mining Station Port Wing (31, 23, 5))
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:15:14.021] ACCESS: Login: PowerfulBacon
[2020-02-17 12:15:14.021] ACCESS: Mob Login: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) was assigned to a /mob/living/carbon/human
[2020-02-17 12:15:14.024] GAME: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) Client PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) has taken ownership of mob Burnard Silkwind(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Mining Station Port Wing (31, 23, 5))
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:18:13.839] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "really" (Engineering Foyer (159, 140, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:26.149] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "Clown what the fuck" (Starboard Primary Hallway (147, 138, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:29.055] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "really what?" (Space (146, 85, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:31.551] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "the SM" (Central Primary Hallway (119, 144, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:32.982] GAME: Radiation pulse with intensity: 37675.2 and range modifier:  in (Supermatter Engine (169, 154, 2)) 
[2020-02-17 12:18:36.038] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "Where you at?" (Locker Room (128, 148, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:36.085] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "honk" (Space (143, 78, 2))
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:18:45.302] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "im at evac" (Space (141, 71, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:47.060] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "why" (Space (141, 71, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:52.095] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "have you seen engineering" (Central Primary Hallway (89, 132, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:18:57.975] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "yes" (Space (140, 50, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:19:08.375] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "well" (Departure Lounge (107, 76, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:19:09.713] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "its fucked" (Departure Lounge (107, 76, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:19:13.077] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "honk" (Space (128, 34, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:19:15.790] GAME: Radiation pulse with intensity: 45996.6 and range modifier:  in (Supermatter Engine (169, 154, 2)) 
[2020-02-17 12:20:24.549] GAME: Explosion with size (12.347, 26.6939, 28.6939, 0) in (Supermatter Engine (169, 154, 2))
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:21:30.867] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "hold my hand" (Aft Primary Hallway (106, 102, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:21:32.603] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "im scared" (Aft Primary Hallway (106, 102, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:21:39.079] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "location?" (Departure Lounge (105, 78, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:21:44.662] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "command hall" (Bridge (101, 128, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:21:52.666] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "omw" (Aft Primary Hallway (107, 88, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:21:55.443] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "It deleted gravity" (Command Hallway (124, 126, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:22:03.355] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "its tesla" (Aft Primary Hallway (107, 110, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:22:11.087] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "I know" (Fore Primary Hallway (106, 153, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:22:27.590] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "im by bar" (Central Primary Hallway (127, 127, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:22:32.985] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "bruh moment" (Bar (128, 126, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:22:51.246] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "waht if" (Bar (131, 128, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:22:56.739] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "what the fuck?" (Bar (135, 128, 2))

[2020-02-17 12:23:00] [['PowerfulBacon notifies the admin team of the issue asking for another admin to assist since they are IC involved, being a tator in the round']]

[2020-02-17 12:23:09.861] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "hello slime" (Bar (135, 125, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:23:16.711] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "whats up" (Bar (131, 128, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:23:18.458] ADMIN: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) checked the player panel.
[2020-02-17 12:23:38.469] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "no" (Bar (135, 126, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:24:03.051] WHISPER: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "save me" (Bar (135, 125, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:24:07.747] WHISPER: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar) "hoink" (Bar (135, 125, 2))
[2020-02-17 12:24:15.139] SAY: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind) "no" (Bar (135, 126, 2))
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:26:08.641] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind)->LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar): based sm delamination?
[2020-02-17 12:26:17.616] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar)->PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind): my clown gimmick
[...]
[2020-02-17 12:30:16.874] ACCESS: Login: WhyisCaeciliusTaken
[2020-02-17 12:26:08.641] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind)->LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar): based sm delamination?
[2020-02-17 12:26:17.616] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar)->PowerfulBacon/(Burnard Silkwind): my clown gimmick
[2020-02-17 12:30:47.367] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky)->LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar): Really?
[2020-02-17 12:30:55.255] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar)->WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky): really what?
[2020-02-17 12:31:35.542] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky)->LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar): Why''d you tesla delam the SM as a nonantag?
[2020-02-17 12:31:43.961] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar)->WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky): my clown gimmick
[2020-02-17 12:32:02.218] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Knee Gar)->WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky): i announced it and other player didnt care
[2020-02-17 12:32:12.868] ADMINPRIVATE: WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Ivan Ivanovitch Ivanovsky) has created a permanent server ban for LastCrusader105. Reason: Delaminated the SM into a tesla as \"my clown gimmick\"

Final note, Bacon didn’t handle this directly since he was a tator and invested into the round. He followed the correct internal procedure by asking to have another admin take action as needed.

I didn’t think he was going to do it until the sparks started coming out

Did I not say I was going to?
You and other guy agreed you even encouraged me, and didn’t try to stop me
Other guy said nothing but then said is it delamming yet, which to me by not saying no or taking any action was agreeing with it

So far as I was aware I was making the rounds interesting till we had more players rather than 3

holy shit knee gar very good clown gimmick, also it was a funny so unban…
If Bacon allowed it i dont see any problem with it, an admin driving someone to make sm go booom is based… like admins turning me into monkey on extended round so i went around biting people.
anyway even if bacon didnt think he d actually do it he shouldnt have told him to honk it.

Due to that single line from Bacon, I’d say that this ban should at least be reduced to a week. Not that it matters much, but it’s still there.

I agree that it shouldn’t be permanent and he should at least get a chance to play, but:
In his defense there was only a few people on the server and non actively stopped him
But then again just because an admins IC character says something, that doesn’t make it admins word OOC.

I never allowed this either, as I said IC I was the traitor so was looking for him to die, but releasing the tesla as a ‘clown gimmick’ when it is lowpop is pretty stupid

I dunno I took madlad actually doing it as
Fuck it low pop have some fun
And can we all confirm I’m better clown that caelus?

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I think it should be obvious not to release tesla as a non-antag, but I do think the ban should be shortened, although it should be noted that the round before you tried to delaminate the crystal too near (not after about 6ish minutes too) the round end which I banned you from engineering from.

Confirmed you are better clown, gimmicks that get you banned are chad.

3 mins too

Let’s not get it twisted my plan was for it to delam by round end I could suicide then watch it

Which is what drove me to do my clown gimmick tbh :kissing_heart: