Chamoral banned by cerebrallolzy

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Maybe it will help if I trim the logs to only include your part in it.

Same logs as above, but only Chamoral

[2020-07-26 11:39:28.746] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 119, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:29.143] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:32.558] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:33.385] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has kicks Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:33.385] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:34.426] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:35.444] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:36.266] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:37.086] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:37.532] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 120, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:38.466] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:38.514] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 120, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:39.266] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:43.496] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:43.554] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 120, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:44.298] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:48.498] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:51.013] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with crowbar (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 88) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:51.147] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has kicks Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:51.148] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:51.954] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:52.925] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has grabbed Chamoral/(Ty Lee) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:54.069] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has grabbed Chamoral/(Ty Lee) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:55.394] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 88) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:56.303] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has punched Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 120, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:56.354] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 88) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:58.492] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has kicks Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 88) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:39:58.492] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 88) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:00.295] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with mechanical toolbox (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 76) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:01.170] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with mechanical toolbox (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 64) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:02.059] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with mechanical toolbox (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 55) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:02.779] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:03.560] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:03.942] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with mechanical toolbox (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 43) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:04.493] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:04.871] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has shoved Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 43) (Central Maintenance (126, 120, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:05.451] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:06.282] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has kicks Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:06.283] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) (NEWHP: 94.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 122, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:08.281] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 76.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:09.217] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 58.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:10.001] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 40.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:10.914] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 28.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:11.473] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Ty Lee) has punched Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: 36) (Central Maintenance (126, 120, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:11.862] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has kicks Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 28.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:11.863] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has shoved Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 28.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:13.378] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 10.8) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:14.285] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -2.7) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:15.076] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -16.2) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:15.915] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -34.2) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:16.727] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -47.7) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:17.553] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -65.7) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:18.375] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -83.7) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:19.249] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -101.7) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:20.115] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -115.2) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 11:40:20.916] ATTACK: Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) has attacked Chamoral/(Ty Lee) with null rod (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -133.2) (Central Maintenance (126, 121, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:20.603] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has stripped PDA-Kate Bishop (Chaplain) off Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) (NEWHP: -115) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:53.191] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -172.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:54.036] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -177.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:54.932] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -182.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:55.724] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -186.2) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:56.583] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -190) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:10:57.384] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -193.7) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:01.587] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -218.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:02.544] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with stun baton (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -222.2) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:03.907] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with Billy club (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -229.7) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:04.751] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with Billy club (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -237.2) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:05.637] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has attacked Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with Billy club (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -244.7) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:10.650] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has grabbed Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) passive grab (NEWHP: -244.7) (Fore Primary Hallway (113, 157, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:11:50.719] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has grabbed Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) passive grab (NEWHP: -285.2) (Primary Tool Storage (72, 147, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:12:08.143] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has grabbed Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) passive grab (NEWHP: -285.2) (Primary Tool Storage (71, 146, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:12:12.340] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has Attempted to Hang Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with the noose (NEWHP: -285.2) (Primary Tool Storage (71, 145, 2))
[2020-07-26 12:12:32.518] ATTACK: Chamoral/(Jim Black) has hanged Kate bishop/(Kate Bishop) with the noose (NEWHP: -294.2) (Primary Tool Storage (71, 145, 2))

NGL, Chamoral didn’t start to take part until after Kate was a corpse, and not until about a minute after Kate was a corpse. But the say logs that got posted while I was condensing this are pretty damning on the grounds of intent.

I’m neutral on this ban. The actual harm was done entirely by Colla, but the intent to help them make it worse with say logs that clearly indicate grudge behavior means I can’t openly vouch for an unban either

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Bruh i didnt say i like her and i admit to hanging her body but my point that she didnt lose anything of it since if someone wanted to they could still revive her

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Metagrudge involves harm to someone over actions not in this life/round but my point is i didnt harm her since the body was easily revivable by any person wanting to revive her

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Hitting corpses is now law breaking-great…

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The clone and hang again part was a joke,i wouldnt do it,pretty sure you cant ban someone for joking about doing something law breaking-like if i say ill erp next round dont think its valid to permaban me for this

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Banned for hanging an already dead corpse,that is also killed not by me,in a public place where anyone who had such intention could revive it,and admins somehow dont see an issue with this ban.Adminbase of bee kinda dissapoints tbh

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Those logs are pretty damning. Literally admitting that you hanged her because you don’t like her which is admitting you grudge against her in-game. The fact that you would suggest cloning her to make her your victim a second time goes against your defense here.

I really don’t understand why so many think it’s a good idea to ever lie about something when text-based evidence exists of it and you know it. What’s the point? Why even begin to bury yourself with that in-game talk, to begin with? This is like playing a hand of poker, throwing your cards face up on the table, and still try to bluff to victory.

@CerebralLolzy If I may suggest can you pull more logs of him talking? Because we see Collacolla1231 get involved in this around the middle of the large logs you provided. This is also when Kate was still alive as you see her attempt to fight back.

So we may have more rule breaks here than what the ban is simply for. They meta-friend to meta-grudge her together this is obviously clear. But what I am curious about is their in-game communication with each other. If Chamoral used in-game comms to ask for aid from Collacolla1231 it only proves the obvious above. If however there is no in-game logs to suggest this then what we see is cleary meta-coms at work and them organizing their behavior beyond where we can see.

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What rules did i break again?Metagrudging involves harm to ALIVE person and i hanged Kate after she was dead for a while.Very cringe text box tbh

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You were banned for metagrudging. Stop trying to twist shit up. The only reason this wasn’t a more serious ban was because you didn’t specifically kill Kate. You did assist with the entire situation and at times even egged it on. There’s no reason to ruin someone else’s fun just because you lost your antag.

Your track record doesn’t help either.

1837×156

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Metagrudging involves harm to someone.What harm did I deal to Kate?

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You should read that ban very carefully and choose your next words wisely.

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I’d ask other admins to give their vote on this appeal.This guy denies obvious arguments so convincing and proving won’t help I guess

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Not much to say when you have damning proof against you. But so be it… I’ll ping the others.

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Damning proof that I metagrudged a dead body…
A B-O-D-Y

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Bruh why did you say you dislike Kate’s dead body though. Your second char didn’t even fuckin know Kate.

“Oh oh but she blew up SM”

Bruh. You’re obviously just looking for an excuse, but can’t you come up with something better?

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I did no harm to a player over events in another life/round.And now let’s see the meta rules:
You cannot attack players over events that occured in a previous life. This includes ghost respawns, and new rounds. This does not include cloning.
I didn’t attack her she was already dead

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Not what I asked but alright

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Bruh I disliked Kate’s body because 1.I wanted to2.Its not against rules3.It was kinda fun tbh4.Its not against rules.

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That’s why…