Thank you for your input, I agree
@Ruko needs to log dive to get context for the people to judge
ruko doesn’t want to dive for logs, caecilius is indifferent to the outcome… do we see a problem here
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We always do
So far score lies at…
Ruko -1
Chet+1
Ain’t counting @RodBoward yet as he didn’t wait for facts he’s free to update it or confirm his stance if he wishes
Maggot -1
Sole+1
Balance of 0
+1 unban him
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Thank you spaghetti for the input
+1 atm
Oh turns out I have a image of the meme way my BB killed people
The scientist at top is bass R.I.P
Image is too big sadly 
So the person you isotatedly killed in a previous round brought up OOC crap on the next round and YOU are the one blamed for metagrudging? Just putting this here because it seems yall ignoring this fact.
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Me and bass have a troubled history…but yes
Soon as I seen him on round one he brought up my M.O on how I kill
Then next round when I asked for the CE magboots he said I planned to kill him
But yes I was banned for metagrudging cause he decided I did
We need to see the logs to see what was actually said but it looks like Crusader asked the CE for his special boots, thus indicating he might have been tator. Heads and Sec, and really people in general tend to be very nervous about people being right next to them. If somebody walked up to me as CE and asked for my boots, yeah, I’d be very suspicious.
why didn’t you mention this the first time? And he agreeed but you had to drag him? Him agreeing to go anywhere with you during a late part of a round on lowpop shows he does not have a gridge against you.
This is entirely understandable, even within IC context. Like I said, you asked for his tator objective item.
Also, I’ve said a few “oh hey it’s you” in the past if I’ve recognized a guy from previous rounds. Even though he may not should have said that, it’s not that unreasonable for him to do so, praticularly if he was angry enough about it to ahelp it, and at least from this doesn’t necessarily show an underlying hatred to you and thus is not bannable.
Are you confused?
He is the one who said I metagrudged? I never claimed he has one against me, but he does
As for dragging, it’s cause I was riding a Jannie cart so I was faster
I asked for his mag boots he said no get normal ones that’s effort then made no more attempts to get them
Oh I welded his doors then went about my day
I didn’t mention it cause A. I don’t want my way of killing being brought up then everyone knows how I get down
And B I thought this be a open shit case of caelius sucking him off
And as for the IC comments, I don’t understand your point, earlier you said it was meta gaming when I replied to his meta grudge comment
Now it’s IC issue?
Far as I was concerned it was 2 dudes having some Meta game banter then I thought he was a antag then caelius shows up and fucks me
- side least he let me finish that round before the ban
these are powergaming and self antag respectively. this guy definitely needs to stay banned for the time it currently is at.
Powergaming isn’t against rules on golden.
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maggot that was in lrp, literally your whole point is killed by that or best say was already dead.stop not worthy. lrp is a hellhole where thats valid let them live
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This was on golden?
Damn, my bad.
was also mistaken on it being powergaming; the revised rulings state that taking those items (uniques & tator objectives) as “not the guy who owns them” is self antagging, and thus trying to get them shows a desire to self antag
I had my reasons for the mag boots Sm related things
And yes golden as it says at the start of appeal
This thread is dumb. I’m locking it so only admins can post for the time being. I’ll pull logs tomorrow morning if no one has yet.
I post opinions without logs when I post from work because I don’t have access to them from here.
In this particular case I was involved in the discussion going on about the grudge so while I’m not the one who applied the ban I’m already aware of everything involving this situation.
Crusader has a well established grudge against Bass, and trying to come up with feasible excuses after the fact is disingenuous at best and downright shitty at its worst. You’ve already outright admitted this is metagrudge behavior with your posts here.
You targeted Bass because he was Bass in the antag round by your own admission and have tried backpedaling that. The following round isn’t as clear cut, but harassing someone with false claims IC for no reason (and there was no reason at the time, your reason here came up after the fact) is very much a breach of our first rule even if it wasn’t directly a metagrudge.
You actively seek to upset not just Bass but several others and then try to play it off as if you’re innocent. You victim-blamed @TheNeoGamer42 when you were doing it to him.
[2020-04-13 10:30:43.162] OOC: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “wth no antag?” (Engineering (117, 75, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:30:56.145] OOC: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “imma jump inot sm” (Engineering (119, 75, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:08.177] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “bro” (Engineering (117, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:10.033] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Lemmie gues” (Chief Engineer’s Office (117, 82, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:14.064] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “You tryna kill me?” (Chief Engineer’s Office (117, 82, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:14.665] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “gimme the boots” (Engineering (117, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:19.638] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “No” (Chief Engineer’s Office (116, 82, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:21.742] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “i wanna chill in sm” (Engineering (117, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:29.694] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Get normal magboots then” (Chief Engineer’s Office (118, 82, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:31.850] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “no kill im not antag” (Engineering (117, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:31:38.980] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “i dont meta grudge” (Engineering (117, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:32:05.860] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “ce is antag” (Engineering (118, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:32:12.563] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “hes got a armblade” (Engineering (118, 77, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:32:44.465] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “hym” (Central Primary Hallway (97, 134, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:32:49.440] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Thanks marshall” (Engineering (112, 75, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:07.856] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “marshall why lie?” (Central Primary Hallway (117, 113, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:16.642] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “marshall also ling” (Central Primary Hallway (130, 116, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:31.837] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “bro” (Medbay Central (141, 125, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:35.763] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Litterally we cannot have lings” (Engineering (118, 72, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:41.065] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “yea” (Central Primary Hallway (130, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:44.975] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Look at the possibilities” (Engineering (118, 72, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:47.195] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Roundstart” (Engineering (118, 72, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:49.093] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “We CANNOT” (Engineering (118, 72, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:33:59.949] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “true” (Medbay Central (139, 123, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:34:03.020] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “…” (Central Primary Hallway (130, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:34:05.284] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “…” (Central Primary Hallway (128, 135, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:34:07.494] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “it tried to kill me” (Medbay Central (139, 123, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:34:58.532] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “also ce aint setting up sm” (Supermatter Engine (110, 66, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:01.857] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “he antag” (Supermatter Engine (110, 66, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:18.744] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Octagon” (Engineering (129, 68, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:24.301] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “calling it now” (Aft Primary Hallway (114, 104, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:26.940] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “I'm litterally checking ai's laws” (Engineering (129, 68, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:35.346] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Finna put in a metagrudge report…” (AI Satellite Antechamber (149, 64, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:42.888] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “octagon is 90% tator and got obj to kill derancla” (Starboard Primary Hallway (180, 127, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:46.321] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “do it” (Central Primary Hallway (98, 112, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:35:50.008] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “you antag” (Central Primary Hallway (98, 112, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:38:26.426] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “erp?” (Recreational Holodeck (145, 158, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:40:42.722] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “no worries” (Fitness Room (138, 151, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:40:54.596] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “ce stoill antag doe” (Fitness Room (138, 151, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:41:13.145] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “unless he set up sm” (Central Primary Hallway (130, 120, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:41:35.666] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Deadass about to ban myself to test somethnig” (Head of Personnel’s Office (105, 120, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:41:42.019] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “sm aint set up” (Engineering (113, 72, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:42:20.094] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Litterally was checking ai, dealing with tickets, and dealing with half the server being dead” (Bridge (115, 137, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:42:29.007] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Because there's 12 player connected” (Bridge (115, 137, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:42:32.420] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “why be ce when your admeme” (Starboard Primary Hallway (142, 128, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:42:33.472] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “and 5 dead” (Bridge (115, 137, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:42:38.479] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Sorry, 5 alive” (Bridge (117, 134, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:42:59.338] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Because the admeme policy requires me to stay adminned if I'm the only admin” (Bridge (121, 134, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:44:22.652] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “i think we can all agree the CE is a jew” (Medbay Treatment Center (138, 113, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:44:28.786] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “and therefore valid” (Medbay Treatment Center (138, 113, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:44:46.583] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “setting up sm” (Central Primary Hallway (128, 123, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:45:12.960] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “grig?” (Central Primary Hallway (102, 142, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:46:18.210] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “fuck sake” (EVA Storage (102, 146, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:46:56.576] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “to get cancer” (EVA Storage (103, 149, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:47:13.872] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “kill ce” (EVA Storage (105, 149, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:47:25.239] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “hes antag” (EVA Storage (105, 149, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:21.496] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “bruh” (Engineering (120, 75, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:32.983] SAY: MineRage/(Bem) “octagon took sm shard!” (AI Chamber (150, 32, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:33.663] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “bro why you delaming sm bro” (Engineering Foyer (122, 86, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:37.571] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “oh” (Engineering Foyer (122, 85, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:39.142] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “sorry bro” (Engineering Foyer (122, 85, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:41.288] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “i said hes antag” (Captain’s Office (119, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:41.443] SAY: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “im not bro” (Engineering (113, 71, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:42.379] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “Me?” (Central Primary Hallway (110, 111, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:44.997] SAY: Bastian0930/(Sebastian Derancla) “I didn't do shit” (Central Primary Hallway (110, 111, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:48.808] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “no” (Engineering (122, 80, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:51.623] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “the octagont” (Engineering (122, 80, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:52.414] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “and his objective is to kill CE” (Captain’s Office (119, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:54:56.639] SAY: Average_Joe22/(Grigori Bogdanoff) “im sorry bro, it has to happen” (Engineering (122, 80, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:55:01.247] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “octagon is antag” (Captain’s Office (119, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:55:01.990] SAY: MineRage/(Bem) “looks like he took sm shard” (AI Chamber (150, 32, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:55:08.316] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “hes objective is to kill CE” (Captain’s Office (119, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:55:12.200] SAY: Bob3443/(Marshall Garneys) “preety sure” (Captain’s Office (119, 131, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:55:24.546] EMOTE: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless… (Engineering (112, 76, 2))
[2020-04-13 10:55:24.548] GAME: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) has died (BRUTE: 195.4, BURN: 0, TOX: 0, OXY: 5.53333, CLONE: 0) (Engineering (112, 76, 2))
[2020-04-13 11:14:18.710] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Cindy Kate)->LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI): Hello. May I ask why you’ve been trying to get the CE labelled valid all round?
[2020-04-13 11:20:13.675] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Cindy Kate)->LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI): Hello?
[2020-04-13 11:20:23.985] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI)->WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Cindy Kate): one sec
[2020-04-13 11:20:48.331] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI)->WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Cindy Kate): i did say ping me when round ends, but admins cant read seems. what was your question?
[2020-04-13 11:21:17.107] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Cindy Kate)->LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI): Why did you try to get the CE labelled valid all round
[2020-04-13 11:22:21.692] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI)->WhyisCaeciliusTaken/(Cindy Kate): originally it was cause he said i metagrudge against him, cause i asked for CE boots, but then marshall said he couldnt be ling cause he seen him, how would the scientist see CE in his office at round start?
[2020-04-13 11:23:39.141] OOC: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “think thats bad? admemes bullying me” (Construction Area (110, 99, 2))
[2020-04-13 11:23:46.587] OOC: LastCrusader105/(Dr.Octagon XI) “cause we killed bass last round” (Construction Area (110, 99, 2))