Blood toxicity needs to be reworked

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Several times now I have been traitor and gotten a sleepy pen to abuse blood toxicity.

Injecting 45u of a non-matching blood type into someone instantly fills their bloodstream with 1000u of Toxin.

The first time I found out this was possible was on accident to myself. I was doing xenobiology and had the genius idea to use a sleepypen to inject slime cores with monkey blood, but it didn’t work and I had a second genius idea to empty the sleepypen by just injecting it into myself because what is a human if not a giant container for blood. It took a solid 10-20 minutes of blood filtering on a sleeper to get all the toxins out.

It’s not a very quick or efficient murder strat, but it can sure as hell make someone’s round hell. If anything that makes it much worse, since at least a desword to the face ends your suffering rather quickly.

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nah i think that’s pretty funny.

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Actually that seems like a really good way to utilize a Sleepypen. The effects aren’t noticeable immediately unless they notice the prick, and they will definitely either die or end up in medbay.

Rig explosive in medbay, prick, wait, Boom.

1000u seems pretty excessive though, that literally caps out the reagent limit.

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Potassium and water will instantly clear all that toxin (you need 6u of each from my testing, which IS gonna hurt, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the alternative). Still this is a very powerful weapon that I didn’t think about.

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Yes, because 45u of blood is more than enough to cap the reagent limit.

In fact, if you stab someone with a sleepypen full of incompatible blood, you won’t actually lose any blood out of the sleepypen because there’s so much toxin in their body that there’s no room for the blood.

Meaning if you use a health analyzer to check for compatibility you can go on a rampage and stab every one who doesn’t have your blood type and leave the entire station reeling.

Considering nerfing it yet?

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If you can get your hands on Lizard blood you don’t even need the analyzer, damn there’s a lot of potential with this.

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stop plz dont nerf more spess man stuff

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I’ve never tested it with lizard blood, so I can’t guarantee you’ll get results that way.

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It should work, you’ve just discovered a mass murder tool holy shit.

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I’ve known about it for weeks. I was keeping it to myself to avoid mass murder.

I’ve had my fun with it though and it’s time to pass my knowledge on to the new generation.

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Yea no
Injecting incorrect blood type adds blood units/2=units of toxin
So 45 u of incorrect blood would add 22,5 u of toxin to target mob

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I just told you I’ve done this in game. Both on a private test server and on sage. I used a health analyzer. I checked. It’s 1000 toxin.

If you don’t believe then do it yourself.

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shh this was supposed to be kept in the annals of secrit robust knowlage

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Sleepy pen is somewhat busted in a few regards, this isn’t even the worse. The fake death stuff can be used to instastun someone on the spot.

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Can confirm this, I was one of the targets to receive this attack in Sage.

One small prick and suddenly 1000u of toxin inside me

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Zombie powder sleepy pens are wack.

Also despite what super12 said I’m fairly certain sleepy pen fucks something allowing this to work.
I haven’t tested it personally but I’ve seen it happen before.

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I personally avoid exploits but I’ve known about this for a while.

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Toxin

And yes, it does work with lizard blood.

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4u is 18 Toxin
5u is 12 Toxin
10u is 50 Toxin
15u is 112 Toxin
20u is 200 Toxin
25u is 312 Toxin
30u is 500 Toxin
35u is 612 Toxin
40u is 800 Toxin
45u is 999 Toxin and does not empty the pen unless the blood types match. If blood types match it empties and fills up blood volume to the limit of 2000u

Seems to be sleepy pen issue rather than blood toxicity issue though.