Ban Appeal Maslav by Mat05usz

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CKEY: Maslav

Admin’s CKEY: Mat05usz

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: both

Which server did the ban happen on? MRP

Ban Type: Game Ban

Ban Length: 7 days

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 2020-09-11 22:16:37

Round ID: 19408

Ban Reason: “Threw Multiple water-potas nades in “self-defence”.History of antag”

Appeal Reason: I dont think 7 days and ban on both servers is fair for what i did

Additional Information: Okay. So how it went first. Clown and his lawyer were trying to sue sec for being sec. I went to support my fellow crewmembers in the fight against facism. After some time, some sec guy/girl came in, said something about “how gay that was what we were doing” (not his her words). Then a fight broke out with the one sec officer a graytide and i think clown and lawyer. The sec officer went out of the court room. Clown said he wanted to get out of there. He couldnt. So due to a fact i was intoxicated irl and ic i wanted to help him by throwing a nade to blow up the door.
Outside of the court room some guy who was also with me watching all this stuff started shoving me because he thought i wanted to kill someone with that nade.
So i started running. Then near science some robot shoved me on a table and started to beat me. So in self defence and because i didnt want to be a bitch who was just silently beaten to death and left in maint again i detonated myself (i havent thrown that nade, i exploded).

Also regarding the Self Antag i guess the admin was referring to the previous round(he questioned me then) where right before the round ended (while we were still flying) i detonated a grenade near the shuttle control center. I was also a Blood Brother and i thought it would be ok to do because i was a bad guy but i guess it was not :frowning:

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I’ll pull logs soon about those grenades, because if i remember correctly there have been quite a lot of them.

Also round ID is: 21154

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Okay, logs time.

These are logs with grenades from the round you were banned:

Line 132: 	Line 7562: [2020-09-11 22:06:09.493] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Courtroom (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Potassium, 100); (large beaker 2 : Water, 100);. (Courtroom (114, 149, 2))
Line 147: 	Line 8355: [2020-09-11 22:10:37.435] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Research Division (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Research Division (111, 108, 2))
Line 149: 	Line 8359: [2020-09-11 22:10:37.443] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Research Division (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Research Division (111, 108, 2))

One in court, which is, I suppose, one meant for lawyer and clown and two in RnD for some reason.
Now, I dived a little more and found these. Same day, just few rounds back:

Line 105: 	Line 9807: [2020-09-11 18:28:07.784] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 136, 2))
Line 107: 	Line 9809: [2020-09-11 18:28:07.786] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 136, 2))
Line 109: 	Line 9811: [2020-09-11 18:28:07.788] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 136, 2))
Line 111: 	Line 9813: [2020-09-11 18:28:07.792] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 136, 2))
Line 113: 	Line 9816: [2020-09-11 18:28:09.048] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 141, 2))
Line 115: 	Line 9818: [2020-09-11 18:28:09.051] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 141, 2))
Line 117: 	Line 9820: [2020-09-11 18:28:09.053] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 141, 2))
Line 119: 	Line 9822: [2020-09-11 18:28:09.056] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a unsecured chemical grenade at Bar (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (126, 141, 2))
Line 122: 	Line 10544: [2020-09-11 18:32:40.303] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Honked 'n' Loaded (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (127, 135, 2))
Line 124: 	Line 10548: [2020-09-11 18:32:40.308] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Honked 'n' Loaded (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (127, 135, 2))
Line 126: 	Line 10552: [2020-09-11 18:32:40.314] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Honked 'n' Loaded (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (127, 135, 2))
Line 128: 	Line 10556: [2020-09-11 18:32:40.319] GAME: Maslav/(John Johnson) primed a chemical grenade at Honked 'n' Loaded (0, 0, 0) containing: (large beaker 1 : Water, 100); (large beaker 2 : Potassium, 100);. (Central Primary Hallway (127, 135, 2))

A LOT of bombing for a non antag Station Engineer.

So in conclusion, you bombed 3 times as non antag on the round you were banned and bombed a lot of times few rounds back, and I fail to see a reason why.

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Did the grenades go to space? Usally going to space means all the air goes out of a room causing a lot more harm. And what were the grenades set to, if they were something early it would make sense for self defense.

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@GameAdmin Bumping this so it can be resolved - and if I’m not mistaken Mat is currently on leave.

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Gonna call this as the second admin.

Lot of bombings for not much of an IC reason. This one should stay.

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