Ban Appeal: Fronsis

**CKEY:**Fronsis

**Admin’s CKEY:**yoshimiwastaken

**Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one:**MRP

**Which server did the ban happen on?**MRP

**Ban Type:**Permanent

**Ban Length:**Permanent

**Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY):**11/3/2020

**Round ID:**23368

Ban Reason:’‘Critted a clown over flushing his backpack down disposals, has a history of overescalation.’’

Appeal Reason:

Will try to keep it short on the situation that lead to the ban:

Me, geneticist, just go around grabbing scans, get slipped haha funny prank, clowns proceed to steal my bag and run around, okay i was a little annoyed, throw a few punches, could’ve called it off there, eventually saw him threw my bag to the trash, not so funny prank.jpg

Yeah, i went back to medbay, grabbed a saw, chopped em up into crit and threw his bag into the trash as an act of karma that is indeed overescalation he got dragged into medbay (i was gonna do that anyway) i applied a gauze and bruise kits and went to disposals to find my bag, but found the Clown there, we did a little bit of swearing, pretty much empty treats i was done with the situation, clown threw my bag into further disposals, like… to the trash grinder and he also went there, anyway a little bit after got arrested and at the same time bwoinked, so that concludes the reason of the ban

Some extra info:

  • Yoshimi questioned me if i let him to die out of bleed loss/crit and i replied the admin ticket with a copy-paste of the chat-log of me stopping the bleeding and using a bruise pack however… he couldn’t find it it only showed the healing done by a scientist that dragged him, just to clarify clown was in crit with… probably +80 brute damage on a single part of the body (head i think?) and… this might be logged as well but i used the bruise pack and the gauze from the free stuff that are on top of medbay so… i did in fact healed him and had the items on my, i don’t know why it would fail to register in the logs, perhaps… the latency difference? since i play with a higher ping than regular players but after i was done with healing him and i went into cargo i even dropped a bruise pack into the floor so… yeah, pretty much i did heal him

I understand though that this obviously is not an acceptable behaviour for MRP while on LRP this might be accepted like ‘‘okay you critted him but you healed him don’t be idiot don’t overescalate that much you’re good to go’’ so yeah, i agree on the fact that this is a clear example of overexcalation.

However i don’t think this deserves a permaban i could see a note or a ban for a few days if i take into account that i’m a frequent player that usually doesn’t get into trouble and all related bans and notes were made with a lot if time span in between. And on the other hand I don’t agree with the comment made in my ban reason of history of overescalation

Now, why i don’t think i have an history of overescalation? Well here’s a look into my ban history:

And the only note i’ve had this year: ( i think there’s another one at the beginning of the year that it doesn’t show)

As noted, all of the bans except for the one on the top were done a long time ago under different time spans and were regarding sillicon behaviour and issues that i’ve already learned from it, that itself can be vouched for any long player that saw me progress as a borg player as Good Boy V3, They were all done on LRP and under very specific circustances which i could go into but that would make the post longer than usual but i don’t think develop into a ‘‘history of overescalation’’ bah… at least it’s something that hasn’t happened in a way of one week after another as some players frequently do and i personally see it as i slowly learned the sillicon behaviour rules in the hard way i’m free to answer any questions regarding any ban or behaviour and open to receive any type of vouch.

In any case, this is an overall appeal to reduce the ban from permanent to… whatever sentence is needed for this particular scenario

Additional Information:

I don’t think this is how the procedure goes and that’s why i feel like i need to remark it, i was awaiting Yoshimi answer to what he asked me in the bwoink before, they were taking like 15-20 minutes in between (all good it’s how it goes) i was just… doing station stuff as a borg and suddenly the connection dropped and found out i was banned, on all encounters i’ve had and seen with all of the administration team there’s always some kind of talk before dropping the ban hammer which i guess it’s always needed to try to make the player to understand, to think what he did, to where to go if he needs to appeal and all additional details that are needed for a closure so… I hope Yoshimi could explain why this ended up like this because that really caught me off hand

Obviously i could understand if this method of ‘‘sudden ban’’ was done to a griefer with 10 minutes of an account that just came and axed five people in the hallway, it’s literally a ‘‘bye’’ moment but yeah, that left me with quite a bad taste because this is not how i’ve seen others and personally experienced the way of handling a ban (of course i don’t complain about the time in between each bwoink that’s obviously understandably considering the time it takes to dig into logs and to discuss with the fellow admins on their respective private channel)

Additional additional information: I just hope the clown got at least a little ‘‘hey… change that’’ because his name wasn’t proper for MRP, even if they have an extra layer of pardon for their name considering that’s part of his role but… Dick word.

“I don’t have a history of overescalation”
The ban list: kill, kill,kill, kill

Jokes aside, it’d be logged if you did it, regardless of latency (Assuming you didn’t manage to lag out). I WILL admit I most likely jumped the gun there with a perma, and for that I apologise. I also realise a global ban may have been overkill, as you’ve pointed out, Golden would have most likely been an acceptable spot for the situation. I was tired, and it was late. I’ll reduce the ban to about a month sage ban, I believe that would be more acceptable.

I believe it is done, you should be able to enter Golden now. I’ll see ya on Sage in a month :slight_smile: