Arrfur banned by WhyisCaeciliusTaken (hahathisissoquirky))

Ban Appeals Game Appeals
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CKEY: Arrfur

Admin’s CKEY: WhyIsCaeciliusTaken

Is this for both servers or just one? If so, which one: Both

Which server did the ban happen on? Golden

Ban Type: Server

Ban Length: P e r m a

Ban Date (MM/DD/YYYY): 05/22/2020

Round ID: 16455

Ban Reason: “Purged the AI and uploaded selfantag laws, then when it had its laws changed again uploaded lawsets that forced the AI to spam erotic copypastas on the radio.”

Appeal Reason:

The ban reason is false. Don’t know what else to tell you.
For starters, the round was over, I log out, then come back a few hours later to find out I’ve been perma-banned with no discussion as to find out what happened! Cool!

Let’s break this down.

“Purged the AI and uploaded selfantag laws"
Yes, I did purge the AI. But the AI had previously said that they do not have any laws. This was my reason for uploading laws in the first place.
EDIT NOTE: I should clarify that I meant from a logs perspective. The AI has previously stated that it had no laws, so I purged before uploading new laws just to be on the safe side. I did not remove any asimov lawsets or the like jesus christ
As for the ‘Self Antag Laws’… I’ll let you decide. I don’t see how different it is to asimov laws, but you be the judge.

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(Apologies for the fucky errors, I forgot that using quotes in byond is fucky)
EDIT NOTE: I should stress that the line that lets ‘Players’ kill ‘Mobs’ was because a plasma-man, (who was the only non-human at the time) was going around injecting people with impedrizine and giving them brain traumas

Finally, “uploaded lawsets that forced the AI to spam erotic copypastas on the radio.”
Either Caecilius was lied to, or didn’t actually take the time to look at the lawset. Luckily I have a screencap of the lawset :slight_smile:

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I’m certain that any competant admin would know that lower laws take priority than higher ones. So no, I did not “Force AI to spam erotic copypastas”.

(And besides, since when were copypastas an instant, no questions asked perma ban? I don’t see how this copypasta is any different to WGW? )

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TL;DR
Caecilius perma-banned me out of the blue either based on hearsay without looking into the logs, or DID look into the logs and banned me for a copypasta and giving the AI human oriented laws when it previously had none :+1:

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Oh no…

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oh no…

maybe dont make rules conflict eachother :flushed:

ineed20charslololololol

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Aw this is a little iffy so I feel bad for the banned but as Rod said. There is a non-appeal ban on erotic content even if it has no significance in the game at all. Sad since it was a joke

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This is literally a copypasta. How the fuck are people getting banned for stupid shit like this. This makes you valid at BEST.

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that awkward moment when your rules say that you’ll either be valid in game or perma banned with no remorse for the same action :flushed:

how can you enforce rules when they contradict eachother :face_vomiting:

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You literally know better. But since you wanna be a trendsetter so bad, welcome to setting the perma trend and getting the rules clarified that its a perma.

Congratulations youre banned forever, play stupid games win stupid prizes. Maybe next server dont try to exploit the rules as much as possible :flushed:

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Ok this is based for many reasons,i think this guy is very funny and should be unbaned from the server because the laws were pretty funny,also i dont think the admin knows how the game and rules works,everyone knows that lower laws take priority over the higher ones.So the ai did not need to spam erotic copy pastas the admin is just noob noob.Also one day while andy was…

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I think the point here is that it makes you valid for players to kill you in-game while also it is permabannable offense OOC. I see no contradiction here.

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U get perma for it + anyone can and will kill u on sight. PURGE THE ERP

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SICKOMODE: ON
ANOMALOUS MASK: ON

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you either die protesting ERP, or live long enough to be banned for it… i will be back…,

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Also, apart from uploading cringe erp pasta laws, first AI law was that it has no laws, so it literally wasn’t forced to say anything.

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Excuse me but:
-you literally posted pics that prove the ban should stay
-rules are fine, they mean you will get permabanned and you are valid if you aren’t banned already

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he gave shitty erp pasta laws to ai, but AI was purged already so it literally wasn’t forced to say anything

Edit: I’m fine with him being banned because he uploaded ‘ERP’ laws, but he did it to purged AI and it had no reason, apart from it’s will, to say anything regarding these laws.

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jus sayin…

you need to remove the erp books from the library, minors might see it bro… bee station pedo ring 2020/…

oh fuck… just remembered there are posters about lizard porn that spawn in maint… bro thats not very PG13… minors could see that bro… wtf… how could you guys… im telling reddit…

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unlesss… this ISNT about minors and spite for getting victor banned :^)

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Nah, it’s to stop anyone from doing this shit, you still made cringe erp pasta in AI laws, which is grounds for banning.

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there is literal porn in the library :neutral_face:

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It makes no sense though?

Like, it’s up to admin discretion whether you get banned or called out as valid?

WGW can get you valid or banned?

Is there a general consensus on what the fuck will actually get you banned instead of valided? Because having both at the same time is not only dumb as fuck, but also contradicts each other and literally means some admin is gonna flex it and ban someone they don’t like for posting WGW instead of making them valid.

Also I’m fuckin’ wheezing because some people (and at least one admin) unironically flex this rule despite also trying to say that Victor should be unbanned because “muh time on da server”.
So admin favoritism and discretion on “who am I going to flex this rule on?” is a thing. And these two rules do that.

@Kasual @Lagomorphica @SuperDork55 y’all are the headjannies. Explain how it’s gonna work. Your jannied are gonna go wild otherwise.

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I would like to remind you all that I was one of the original staff on bee before 90% of you had even played :slight_smile:

muh time tho… muh regular… muh dedication to tha community

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