Alfred Collins [Unknown CKEY]

In-game report:

   CKEY: 000xlynch

   Your Discord: Lynch#4012

   Offender’s CKEY: unknown

   LRP or MRP server: MRP

   Offender’s In-Game Name: Alfred Collins

   Date (MM-DD-YYYY): 01/17/2020

   Round Number: 11545

   Rules Broken: Rule 2, 3, 4, 8

   Incident Description:

Alfred Collins, assistant at round start, rushed to grab insuls and kept pushing/shoving Lynch Alucard, assistant. Lynch Alucard was in maint getting maint insults and kept getting shoved/punched by Alfred Collins. Alfred Collins proceeded to crit/murder Lynch Alucard and broke his way into chaplain’s crematory to incinerate Lynch so he could not be cloned.

Broke rules by self-antaging, not being good to each other, typical LRP griefing greytiding that should not be tolerated on MRP.

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Bruh did you even check if he was antag and or tell the full story

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He was not an antag at all, just wanted to beat me to insulated gloves. It was a green round.

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He failed to mention that he failed to crit me to steal the gloves and then cried about it in OOC

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Typical Collins robusts everything if he gets the chance but cries if he fails

me when Alfred bored on LRP so goes to MRP to robust the roleplayers

Asstistants rushing insuls isn’t really wrong. Him attacking you for minimal reason (stealing insuls off a person is self antag) was kind of wrong. But cremating instead of dragging to medical for healing is Waaay out of line.

Nah, he just straight up murdered this fucker for being insuls competition

lol no he literally punched me and tried cornering and beating me into crit to steal the insus i already put into my backpack

You know what funny is you literally did the same thing to me when i welded down your wall because of a know fugitive, you then disarmed me for asking to search you and murdered me, then spaced me, you got gibbed by the admins for that so just shut the fuck up and stay of MRP if you feel triggered

Relevant logs

	Line 14: [2020-01-17 08:31:08.800] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 171, 2))
	Line 16: [2020-01-17 08:31:15.189] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has attempted to punch DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 100)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 172, 2))
	Line 17: [2020-01-17 08:31:16.151] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 96)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 172, 2))
	Line 18: [2020-01-17 08:31:16.937] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 19: [2020-01-17 08:31:16.958] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 93)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 172, 2))
	Line 24: [2020-01-17 08:31:23.459] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 26: [2020-01-17 08:31:29.838] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 85)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 172, 2))
	Line 27: [2020-01-17 08:31:30.055] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 86.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 28: [2020-01-17 08:31:30.986] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has kicks 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 86.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 29: [2020-01-17 08:31:30.986] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 86.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 30: [2020-01-17 08:31:31.955] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 86.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 171, 2))
	Line 31: [2020-01-17 08:31:33.550] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with chair (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 80.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 32: [2020-01-17 08:31:34.492] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with chair (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 72.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 33: [2020-01-17 08:31:35.411] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 72.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 34: [2020-01-17 08:31:36.360] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has kicks 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 72.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 35: [2020-01-17 08:31:36.361] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 72.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 36: [2020-01-17 08:31:37.321] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with chair (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 64.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 37: [2020-01-17 08:31:38.269] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with chair (INTENT: DISARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 171, 2))
	Line 39: [2020-01-17 08:31:45.780] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has climbed onto [reinforced table] (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 45: [2020-01-17 08:32:17.103] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) passive grab (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 174, 2))
	Line 46: [2020-01-17 08:32:18.278] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 174, 2))
	Line 47: [2020-01-17 08:32:18.467] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has resisted grab DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 97)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 48: [2020-01-17 08:32:18.696] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has broke grab 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 174, 2))
	Line 49: [2020-01-17 08:32:20.909] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 174, 2))
	Line 51: [2020-01-17 08:32:23.447] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has threw and hit DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) with the chair (NEWHP: 87)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 53: [2020-01-17 08:32:25.344] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has threw and hit DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) with the secure briefcase (NEWHP: 90)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 58: [2020-01-17 08:32:34.976] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) passive grab (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 174, 2))
	Line 59: [2020-01-17 08:32:35.434] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 83)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 61: [2020-01-17 08:32:38.304] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 76)  (Port Bow Maintenance (80, 173, 2))
	Line 62: [2020-01-17 08:32:39.598] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 75)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 64: [2020-01-17 08:32:40.879] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has attempted to punch DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 75)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 66: [2020-01-17 08:32:42.129] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 174, 2))
	Line 68: [2020-01-17 08:32:47.802] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 174, 2))
	Line 73: [2020-01-17 08:32:52.918] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 174, 2))
	Line 77: [2020-01-17 08:32:56.105] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has climbed onto [reinforced table] (Port Bow Maintenance (80, 173, 2))
	Line 79: [2020-01-17 08:32:58.568] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 80: [2020-01-17 08:32:59.341] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 81: [2020-01-17 08:32:59.402] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 67)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 173, 2))
	Line 82: [2020-01-17 08:33:00.177] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has kicks 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 83: [2020-01-17 08:33:00.177] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has shoved 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 84: [2020-01-17 08:33:01.071] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) passive grab (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 85: [2020-01-17 08:33:02.111] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 86: [2020-01-17 08:33:03.211] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has tabled 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) onto the reinforced table (NEWHP: 56.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 87: [2020-01-17 08:33:03.862] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has kicked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: 47.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 88: [2020-01-17 08:33:05.101] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 37.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 89: [2020-01-17 08:33:06.012] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 27.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 90: [2020-01-17 08:33:06.944] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 17.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (79, 173, 2))
	Line 91: [2020-01-17 08:33:11.387] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 62.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 173, 2))
	Line 93: [2020-01-17 08:33:12.466] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has attempted to punch DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 62.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 94: [2020-01-17 08:33:12.573] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked [reinforced table] with the fire extinguisher (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 95: [2020-01-17 08:33:14.793] ATTACK: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) has punched DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) (NEWHP: 54.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 173, 2))
	Line 96: [2020-01-17 08:33:16.008] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 7.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 98: [2020-01-17 08:33:17.462] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -2.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (78, 172, 2))
	Line 99: [2020-01-17 08:33:19.903] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) passive grab (NEWHP: -2.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 171, 2))
	Line 100: [2020-01-17 08:33:21.424] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -12.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (76, 171, 2))
	Line 101: [2020-01-17 08:33:22.241] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -22.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (76, 171, 2))
	Line 104: [2020-01-17 08:33:23.002] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -30)  (Port Bow Maintenance (76, 171, 2))
	Line 105: [2020-01-17 08:33:23.843] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -40)  (Port Bow Maintenance (76, 171, 2))
	Line 106: [2020-01-17 08:33:32.842] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -53.3)  (Port Bow Maintenance (75, 171, 2))
	Line 107: [2020-01-17 08:33:33.625] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -63.3)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 171, 2))
	Line 108: [2020-01-17 08:33:34.521] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -74)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 171, 2))
	Line 109: [2020-01-17 08:33:35.416] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -81.5)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 171, 2))
	Line 110: [2020-01-17 08:33:36.336] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -92.2)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 171, 2))
	Line 111: [2020-01-17 08:33:37.276] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has attacked 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) with fire extinguisher (INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -102.2)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 171, 2))
	Line 116: [2020-01-17 08:33:45.863] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has grabbed 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -102.2)  (Port Bow Maintenance (74, 169, 2))
	Line 140: [2020-01-17 08:34:40.959] ATTACK: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) has cremated 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) (NEWHP: -102.2)  (Chapel Office (80, 73, 2))

OOC logs, as they’re also somewhat relevant. (xLynch did the ick ock)

Line 432: [2020-01-17 08:33:31.300] OOC: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) "I SAID IN MAINT" (Port Bow Maintenance (77, 171, 2))
	Line 436: [2020-01-17 08:33:35.384] OOC: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) "DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ? LOL" (Port Bow Maintenance (75, 171, 2))
	Line 509: [2020-01-17 08:35:30.887] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "If you hold on throw mode" (Bar (134, 128, 2))
	Line 509: [2020-01-17 08:35:30.887] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "If you hold on throw mode" (Bar (134, 128, 2))
	Line 517: [2020-01-17 08:35:38.592] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "you automatically catch shit thrown at you" (Bar (134, 128, 2))
	Line 517: [2020-01-17 08:35:38.592] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "you automatically catch shit thrown at you" (Bar (134, 128, 2))
	Line 518: [2020-01-17 08:35:40.310] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "mid air" (Bar (134, 128, 2))
	Line 518: [2020-01-17 08:35:40.310] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "mid air" (Bar (134, 128, 2))
	Line 584: [2020-01-17 08:36:32.954] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "throw mode has to be on" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 584: [2020-01-17 08:36:32.954] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "throw mode has to be on" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 595: [2020-01-17 08:36:53.279] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "get it on" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 595: [2020-01-17 08:36:53.279] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "get it on" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 599: [2020-01-17 08:36:56.503] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "is it on?" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 599: [2020-01-17 08:36:56.503] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "is it on?" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 602: [2020-01-17 08:37:00.592] OOC: Dairtobefalco/(Davis Hunter) "yea" (Bar (134, 126, 2))
	Line 617: [2020-01-17 08:37:18.518] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "throw mode" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 617: [2020-01-17 08:37:18.518] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "throw mode" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 620: [2020-01-17 08:37:21.693] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "has to be on" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 620: [2020-01-17 08:37:21.693] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "has to be on" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 628: [2020-01-17 08:37:40.333] OOC: Dairtobefalco/(Davis Hunter) "u said to hold the yellow intent?" (Bar (134, 125, 2))
	Line 640: [2020-01-17 08:37:51.722] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) "IMa say how in looc, lets not use ooc" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 640: [2020-01-17 08:37:51.722] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) "IMa say how in looc, lets not use ooc" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 640: [2020-01-17 08:37:51.722] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) "IMa say how in looc, lets not use ooc" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 642: [2020-01-17 08:37:57.838] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "Activate throw mode, R" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 642: [2020-01-17 08:37:57.838] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "Activate throw mode, R" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 644: [2020-01-17 08:38:01.336] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "and dont let it off" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 644: [2020-01-17 08:38:01.336] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "and dont let it off" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 648: [2020-01-17 08:38:03.228] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "Not intent" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 648: [2020-01-17 08:38:03.228] OOC: NekoSam/(Neko Sam) ((LOOC)) "Not intent" (Bar (130, 126, 2))
	Line 663: [2020-01-17 08:38:18.378] OOC: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) "Alfred Collins please report to your round-start griefing report https://forums.beestation13.com/t/alfred-collins-unknown-ckey/2057" (Bar (131, 126, 2))
	Line 685: [2020-01-17 08:38:37.490] OOC: Cains_curse/(Lyndsey Hunter) "You have no idea that hes not an antag though" (Medbay Central (93, 104, 2))
	Line 693: [2020-01-17 08:38:44.449] OOC: Striders13/(Peter Sewall) "its greenshift" (Bar (135, 127, 2))
	Line 696: [2020-01-17 08:38:46.148] OOC: Striders13/(Peter Sewall) "liberals" (Bar (130, 125, 2))
	Line 715: [2020-01-17 08:39:14.058] OOC: Yuri Vitch/(Ashlie Johnson) "could be a fake greenshift" (Incinerator (156, 107, 2))
	Line 719: [2020-01-17 08:39:18.115] OOC: Yuri Vitch/(Ashlie Johnson) "you dont know that" (Incinerator (156, 107, 2))
	Line 726: [2020-01-17 08:39:23.609] OOC: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) "Cains, he round start robusted me and cremated my body, pretty antag and ruined my round, even if he was antag, he would be breaking antag murderbone rules" (Medbay Central (103, 110, 2))
	Line 727: [2020-01-17 08:39:23.755] OOC: TheChaser212/(Coma YS) "I don't think that's a thing" (Medbay Central (93, 105, 2))
	Line 732: [2020-01-17 08:39:28.076] OOC: Striders13/(Peter Sewall) "i don't think this gamemode is even on this server" (Medbay Central (103, 110, 2))
	Line 744: [2020-01-17 08:39:39.697] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) "lynch" (Central Primary Hallway (124, 115, 2))
	Line 745: [2020-01-17 08:39:41.036] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) "stfu retard" (Central Primary Hallway (124, 115, 2))
	Line 749: [2020-01-17 08:39:44.667] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) "banbait someone" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 120, 2))
	Line 752: [2020-01-17 08:39:46.548] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) "then cry about dying" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 120, 2))
	Line 753: [2020-01-17 08:39:47.055] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) "lol" (Central Primary Hallway (125, 120, 2))
	Line 765: [2020-01-17 08:39:59.513] OOC: 000xLynch/(Lynch Alucard) "banbait? I didn't ask to get robusted and cremated, thank you" (Central Primary Hallway (88, 143, 2))
	Line 768: [2020-01-17 08:40:04.680] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) ">tries killing someone" (Central Primary Hallway (87, 132, 2))
	Line 773: [2020-01-17 08:40:07.336] OOC: DerpyMcDerpDerp/(Alfred Collins) ">why did he kill me..." (Central Primary Hallway (87, 132, 2))

I wish @Xlyana would summarise their log dumps
On phone it’s very hard to read, and I like to judge

@Xlyana thanks for handling this report.

I just want to point out that yes I agree it is typically very normal for assistants to “fight it out” at the start, whether that is PUSHING/DISARM/SHOVING or punching.

I think it is important to point out that from my memory (the logs should support this), Alfred pushed first (and started the aggression).

Additionally, I personally believe, even on LRP, critting someone is crossing the line, 100%.

To put it in simple terms of levels of escalation:
Level 0 - Shoving/pushing, no harm done
Level 1 - punching, etc, Fine
Level 2 - critting - this is where the line should be drawn, even on LRP. Usually try to heal/drag to medbay by this point.
Level 3 - killing, okay, this is where I personally draw the line (which means I will forgive the other person if they kill me and revive) and think it is too over, you should have stopped when they were in crit. Redemption for killing would be to clone them, which is all good.
Level 4 - gibbing/incinerating, etc, this is just way past the line. You’re permanently ruining another person’s shift, for what? A pair of insulated gloves?

This sort of behaviour isn’t even tolerated on LRP, let alone MRP, and I’m shocked to find out that this person is even a mentor (which I assume would imply some sort of ethical/sensible conduct IC). This is pure psychopathic levels of treating your fellow spessman.

Just wanted to put this out that early aggression is normal, but there are levels of what is accepted and Alfred has ventured into the point of no return.

You do realize that it was you that threw the first punch, right? It’s hard to read on my phone, but I can see at least three attempts to hurt him while he only shoved you.

Cremating someone over punching with no weapon is pretty harsh

Last I checked, punches were actually considered non lethal, since it takes a crap ton of hits to crit some one with fists. Cremating over what was essentially a brawl is a case of major overescalation, especially since the aggressor was the one who did so. This could pretty much be considered valid baiting.

Alfred wasn’t the aggressor
He still using shove while other guy is punching him
As for the cremating, yeah shit thing to do but bet you other guy will consider not escalating in future

Shoving is an aggressive action. It’s a non lethal one, but alfred still threw the first hit. He’s the aggressor.

Either way, this is major overescalation, permanently removing a player from the round over what was literally a brawl. Even if this was LRP, it would be too far.