AlexanderSelf1/Blueturbo47 banned by Vexylius

Well then I apologize for accusing you.

Alex this is starting to look bad for you, what in the hell did you left out

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There was a ticket about him other than this other than the one they just cited.

Look at their logs dude. They legit said if I could come they would let me

I give up at this point, the more time I spend in this appeal the more confused I am. Im gonna leavw it to the people that actually matter, not to some dude that has CZ in his name.

Good luck Alex youre on your own now

Someone said logs are public and I’ve seen no follow up on that

Logs are not public.

Hey your a headmin would you mind showing all the tickets involving me in this round? One with Aeder and then Archanial, another with Archanial about jaws of life, one that got rejected (this is the one I’m talking about by the way) and one with Vexylius when he came to ban me

I gave him consent over comms.

Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:17:51.072 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #15: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Windows 9 borg ignoring law two orders and the orders of ai
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:17:51.072 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #15: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Windows 9 borg ignoring law two orders and the orders of ai - heard by 1 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.

Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:20:47.522 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “Aeder it lowkey seems like your just metagrudging” (Prison Wing (206, 158, 2))

Time message
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:40:33.404 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Windows 9 just flashed me, cuffed me, and left me cuffed
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:40:33.405 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #1: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Windows 9 just flashed me, cuffed me, and left me cuffed - heard by 1 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:47:14.628 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “Also WIndows 9 I ahelped you for that bs earlier” (Brig (200, 133, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:47:53.655 OOC: Aeder1/(Windows 9) (LOOC) “Good for you, I’ll open and read it :)” (Brig (201, 133, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:48:06.455 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “Thats uh. Thats against admin code honey” (Brig (197, 134, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:48:25.996 OOC: Aeder1/(Windows 9) (LOOC) “And theratening ahelps is a warnable offence :)” (Brig Control (204, 130, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:48:36.630 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “I aint threaten shit I did ahelp about it” (Brig (197, 132, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:49:32.381 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Aeder1/(Windows 9)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Will call someone on to deal with this, as for now, do not use LOOC to salt, threaten, or weaponise ahelps.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:49:57.143 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Aeder1/(Windows 9): Aight
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:51:33.269 ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Aeder1/(Windows 9) “I just came on after the looc salt” (Brig (201, 133, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:53:54.267 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Archanial/(Michael Sagan)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Well was there any reason to flash and cuff you?
Dec 8, 2020 @ 19:54:29.095 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Archanial/(Michael Sagan): I was in bridge talking to cap, cap said leave, I start walking - Flashed, cuffed, left cuffed outside bridge. I have been banned for leaving people cuffed.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:01:05.779 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Archanial/(Michael Sagan)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): He had no idea borgs can uncuff people and removing you from bridge is not unreasonable, especially after captain asked you to leave. Breaking into engineering for jaws of life is powergaming on the other point
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:01:35.784 OOC: YoshimiWasTaken/(Patton Sanders) (LOOC) “lag” (Hydroponics (125, 155, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:02:02.447 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Archanial/(Michael Sagan): Uh I actually had to pass the jaws to get out engineering. I teled to ai shuttle and was gonna steal one of the cyborg statues to make a pretty room. - - Jaws of life are powergaming? - - Also I took the jaws after I asked to be let out and no one responded.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:02:27.506 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Aeder1/(Windows 9)->Archanial/(Michael Sagan): ikr, I gave him words of advice for the weaponised LOOC, up to you if you want to do more.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:03:08.964 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Archanial/(Michael Sagan)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Yes breaking to engineering to get them is minor powergaming, just don’t abuse them.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:17:07.706 OOC: Babundus/(Cornelius Clay) (LOOC) “grab intent aim at the mouth” (Dormitories (197, 99, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:17:11.604 OOC: Babundus/(Cornelius Clay) (LOOC) “it does a cool thing” (Dormitories (197, 99, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:18:41.445 OOC: YoshimiWasTaken/(Patton Sanders) (LOOC) “spacelag” (Central Primary Hallway (170, 149, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:24:59.583 OOC: YoshimiWasTaken/(Patton Sanders) (LOOC) “laaaag” (Hydroponics (128, 147, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:25:54.456 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “You can really see the life of a fucking clown cant you ai” (Medbay Central (169, 97, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:26:10.015 OOC: Blueturbo47/(BLUECAT–47–) (LOOC) “a unrobust cmo and a terrible seccie” (Central Primary Hallway (167, 104, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:27:03.529 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #6: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Sylvester hall literally watched cmo assault me and knows I am almost in crit and is yet taking me to brig after spending like 20 minutes watching me do nothing wrong
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:27:03.529 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #6: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Sylvester hall literally watched cmo assault me and knows I am almost in crit and is yet taking me to brig after spending like 20 minutes watching me do nothing wrong - heard by 1 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:27:36.310 OOC: Dream Crusha/(Brian Caster) (LOOC) “coochie man > is a woman” (Starboard Primary Hallway (194, 137, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:28:17.847 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Aeder1/(Windows 9)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): You're able to do nothing wrong for 20 minutes and then change. There are medical supplies in the brig as well.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:28:39.578 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Aeder1/(Windows 9): Im past it because its been reported as self defence by like 3 people
Dec 8, 2020 @ 20:51:57.649 OOC: Dream Crusha/(Brian Caster) (LOOC) “shit gotta rejoin to debug crafting menu” (Recreational Holodeck (224, 103, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:02:29.467 OOC: Dream Crusha/(Brian Caster) (LOOC) “brb” (Restrooms (178, 109, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:11:29.802 OOC: YoshimiWasTaken/(Patton Sanders) (LOOC) “fail moment” (Hydroponics (128, 156, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:17:51.072 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #15: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Windows 9 borg ignoring law two orders and the orders of ai
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:17:51.072 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #15: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Windows 9 borg ignoring law two orders and the orders of ai - heard by 1 non-AFK admins who have +BAN.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:20:42.872 OOC: YoshimiWasTaken/(Patton Sanders) (LOOC) “time to go to the gay baby jail lmao” (Hydroponics (126, 150, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:20:47.522 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “Aeder it lowkey seems like your just metagrudging” (Prison Wing (206, 158, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:21:03.119 OOC: Blueturbo47/(BLUECAT–47–) (LOOC) “wait whos aeder?” (Prison Wing (201, 155, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:21:11.816 OOC: Blueturbo47/(BLUECAT–47–) (LOOC) “they the ipc or borgo?” (Brig (200, 141, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:21:14.386 OOC: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man) (LOOC) “Borg” (Brig (200, 141, 2))

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Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:26:14.645 ADMINPRIVATE: bloons3 opened the ticket panel.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:26:21.493 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Bloons3/(River Pritchard)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): what’s up?

Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:26:36.334 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Bloons3/(River Pritchard): What was the content of the ticket because lots has happened this round

Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:26:51.458 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Bloons3/(River Pritchard)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): “Windows 9 borg ignoring law two orders and the orders of ai”

Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:27:20.029 ADMINPRIVATE: Ticket #15: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Wait it was about aeders borg. We were in caps office because I wanted his headset and crown and the fucking borg was ignroing me and ai saying to stop and just kept on arresing me

After a delay where I was handling another unrelated ticket, Vex took over your ticket.

Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:54:10.560 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Vexylius/(Sylvester Hall)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Clown, stole the AI, broke into caps locker. How long ban?
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:54:41.961 ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Aeder1/(Acco Bifasciata) “it was alexanderself1” (Research Division (140, 89, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:55:02.951 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Vexylius/(Sylvester Hall): Captain let me take the ai. in fact, he said if they consent. Also I believe my ahelp about this was rejected. Cant supply your real admin name either. Little sus.
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:55:40.635 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Vexylius/(Sylvester Hall)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): It’s Vexylius. Clown ban one day
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:55:48.658 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Vexylius/(Sylvester Hall): For?
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:57:52.925 ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Aeder1/(Acco Bifasciata) “And the AI being yay please card me and put me in your pocket haha voree in LOOC and OOC thats cool” (Research Division (140, 89, 2))
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:58:08.912 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Vexylius/(Sylvester Hall)->Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man): Fighting with people, blowng up borgs, stealing AI
Dec 8, 2020 @ 21:58:36.840 ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Alexanderself1/(Coochie Man)->Vexylius/(Sylvester Hall): All the people fought us first, ai blew the borg, and cap gave me express permission to take the ai if they consented

Communications in an official admin channel, posted for transparency, for official purposes.

He did not drop me off in vbrig after arresting me in bridge, left me cuffed which i have been banned for doing, and he ignored law two orders and orders from ai. Is that not worth a ban?

I was with the clown for almost the entire round and I only remember him attacking two people, one was the security borg, and the other was the janitor. Although to be fair, they both attacked him first and the situations should be looked into further. About the LRP behavior; if you think he really was LRP then at most you should ban him from the MRP server and allow him to be LRP on the LRP server.

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I thought I should add that I saw what seemed to be the CMO attacking him while I was in the medbay.

Thanks for clarifying.
Since looking through the logs on notepad++ I did find all in current document, I must have not seen the first instance of you hitting them first and I’m not at my pc to post it.
Anything with question marks are meant as questions including the part at the end clarifying my doubts and lack of knowledge.
If I am incorrect about anything I apologise.

That is covered up in the blog post of logs at top. Looks like Clown started shoving and attacking medbay staff. CMo stepped in.

Shoving does not allow for someone to be beat. In the cases where it has been ruled as okay it’s been seen as proper escalation between two non antags and thus it shouldn’t be part of the ban.

Alexanderself1 has been banned from MRP only because this ban is mostly put because of violations of roleplay-specific rules. The information in the initial post is false, and I’ve refered to it in one of my previous posts

What part of this broke mrp specific rules

You have ban reason explained above.

I am denying this appeal, as after looking into the matter further it turned out that this ban was actually very lenient and there is no reason to shorten it even more.

Headmins forbid me from making it longer, so it stays as it is.

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