Okay so the only way to come out of a perma ban is to get a vouch from a server. How ever some peoples reasons for being perma’d are not as bad as others and I believe instead of immediately condemning and demonizing players. I would like to suggest that we enter a new form of punishment that is Cruel but fair. Add a role that can only be toggled by admins on a player like a reverse job ban. Make them assistants with no hands and basically pacify them.
Pros:
Keeps around players instead of making it another servers problem
Players who have been around for awhile and have knowledge can still assist new players
They can no longer grief without hands
A valid punishment while also retaining players
Makes them learn a valid lesson while FORCING role play
Cons:
Basically makes them a bambi
Assistants will most likely make every other job a minority
Keeps around shitty people who can still minge in ooc/text
If this gets passed could be a lot of blanket situations that happen involving past bans if admins cherry pick certain appeals
You can still ERP with no hands
Please if you have any more pros/cons or want to simply add to this let me know
I wouldn’t bee surprised this is ss13 we are talking a boot here.
Adding force pacify would be a very quick way to determine people who have good intentions
This only serves to take up an Assistant slot, and include a player that physically cannot interact with the round in a positive way. If someone did something to actually warranted this, they’d likely deserve of a temp-ban anyway.
It also seems like another attempt to revive something like the cat-ban from Hippie.
I appreciate the spirit of the idea - trying to force people to roleplay - but this isn’t the way to do it. I think it’s also pretty naive to think that people can’t griff with no hands, and that this would make no-rp-griff players more inclined to RP.
I could break down each of your specific arguments, but the general thrust would just be covered with what I wrote above.
A better idea - which I still wouldn’t support - would be actual pacification, a Peace Implant, which already exists in the code.
Yeah you pretty much nailed my idea down honestly If this did happen I hope it would force role play in a way. Most assistants only assist with the destruction of security/station so its not like there is any other reason to have the role. Even though people are shit I still hold on to hope that they can change or at least be made to be productive.
You act like there is not way to stop that from happening. Maybe instead of shitting all over the idea actually contribute to a way that would prevent or fix that problem.
but… beton is making a good statement, bruh shitter unity is extreme this would stop nothing it would take about 2 minutes if i got no arm banned to get arms back and then i could go back to shitting