SMH. I was supposed to have devastated the server 8 days ago with this.
On a slightly more serious noteā¦
Sorry for being so pushy but Iām starting to get a little frustrated and upsetā¦ No staff that would have a say (even a minor one) in such a change has weighed in on the issue publiclyā¦ (I do however, still appreciate those who voted in the poll).
No follow up has been asked of meā¦ no conversation about limitations orā¦ even input on if the list I provided or the terms I set are even viableā¦ It feels like it hasnāt even been acknowledged yetā¦ outside of Ruko pointing out the policy to a confused user.
Iāve been back on Sage since I made this appealā¦ I started playing under a new Borg name and recently pAI. Iāve made and built on backstories, Iāve made friends and set up further development for the future as well as linking my characters in a in viable and canonical way (as I had ideas about such and found the concept interesting and open ended)
Iāve done everything I can to improve myself and those I interact with since returningā¦ and in returnā¦ I get nothing but silenceā¦
Butā¦ back on topicā¦ The month long silence that is holding my character over a knife edge is starting to make me anxious and upsetā¦ making me question if I should even bother playing and putting effort into the game, my characters and making up more backstory for something thatās just going to get slapped down after no discussionā¦
I just want Sunny backā¦ or at the very leastā¦ closureā¦ andā¦ Iām sorry for venting like thisā¦ I think I needed itā¦
Ill probably be offline for a while. Just ping on discord if you need me.
Mmā¦ thatās the lore I was basing my suggestion off of.
Also, even if it was TG lore (the whole 5 words that it is), they apparently are still an extra-terrestrial species (only being SIMILAR to earth moths)
Xeno being given Human names I plan on discussing as wellā¦ but not hereā¦ and not nowā¦ burned out enough as is with this.
Woo!! Breaking point timeā¦ It has beenā¦ 31 days since finalizing a guideline for vetting and there has still been no meaningful response from Ruko (or any other senior), not even a message saying āhey, good work, its being discussedāā¦
Cant say I didnāt try but now Iām just kinda fed upā¦ soā¦ allow me to respond in kind by ignoring the guidelines I wished to change. Only fair, no?
Consider this aā¦ Peaceful protestā¦
Please form an orderly queue for your chance to perma ban me before I leave the shuttle, Iām looking forward to it.
Iām not angry or upset that itās taking ages to be confirmed or needing to jump through several hoops to do so.
Iām upset that it felt like I was being ignoredā¦ perhaps even intentionallyā¦ I see staff on (Mostly Ruko himself), replying to other topics on the forums and pray that they would even shoot a few word confirmation my way or even a DM on discord, something to at least relieve some of the tension that has been constantly building up butā¦ nothingā¦ nothing of the sort came throughā¦
On the 4th of February I ended up making a promise that Sunny would not be seen on Sage (as an actual crew member) until approvedā¦ and up until today, I kept that promiseā¦ as painful as it wasā¦ but the last week or so has been miserableā¦
Felt like (I was being treated like) shit so I just kindaā¦ stopped caringā¦ consequences be dammedā¦ (not as if I was off griefing or anything thoā¦)
I donāt regret being deficientā¦
I only regret being driven toā¦
Do what you will of me but donāt take it out on the others.
I actively agree with this suggestion I have my moth character Mothball This is a character I have had and used for years and is a part of me not just a character recently got appearance banned on sage out of no where about it and then someone else stole my name and appearance,
fact is NOBODY except the rare few even know latin and most latin names for things either donāt exist, look stupid and like a jumble of letters or straight up have letters that arenāt available on keyboards, to put a guideline on a race of a language that isnāt used in any country (to my knowledge) and is a straight up old language nobody uses (unless in the case of supernatural movies etc) is rather stupid, especially since it forces the whole name to be it yet with say oozelings only part of the name is affected, quite literally by the naming guideline of oozelings you could put green gus and thats perfectly fine but if you put amanda (insert something latin allowed by guideline) as a moth its bannable, It honestly feels like a slight towards moths because nobody knows or cares about latin and nobody really wants to search up names in latin related to moths or anything just to play as a moth hell most people in sage just ignore naming guidelines when a moth at this point if you even see a moth in sage.
Apart from IPCs moths are the only race who are forced to have a whole name be something it makes sense for IPCs as they are a type of robot/cyborg but for moths it makes no sense especially considering flies can use human names and apids only need a pun in there name hell the squids only need squ at the start of a name at most. The naming guideline for celestials and plasmamen make somewhat sense.
But for moths it just straight up makes no sense especially considering moths arenāt even related to anything regarding latin and both flies and apids donāt get the same treatment for moths to be forced into a full name being some pretty dead language is just unfair to any moth players and its no surprise theres more moths in golden then sage.
Fact is moths should be able to use simple names as other races basically can especially those related to other insects for moths to be given overly complicated forced full name guidelines makes no sense
Just read the mothman lore nothing at all in it mentions anything to do with latin or latin naming meaning the lore for them doesnāt even justify the naming guideline
My personal opinions regarding naming guidelines in all is I believe we should be able to name our characters regardless or race anything as long as its not braindead for example blatently racist blatently offensive slurs etc bad things just because little timmy decided to play as a ethereal shouldnāt mean he should be forced into being called something like moon IX alot of people make a character and have it become a part of themselves to just ignore that and force restrictions on naming prevents that and can straight up kill immersion and fun especially when staff can just get rid of a name at the flip of a hat because āstaff discretionā as long as its not racist offensive a slur or just abusive then it should be fine.
Wellā¦ fun while it lasted, cooled off a little being able to talk to old and new friendsā¦
I tried asking before why Latin was the chosen preference and got nothing out of itā¦
Saying ālore friendly nameā is fine but when there is no reason given for such a guidelineā¦ It feels like a slap in the faceā¦
If anyone knows why that was chosen please post it here, Id love to know.
The admins for a while were loose on enforcement and only recently stopped Grandfathering in names and cracking down on policy, some more lenient than others. so there ended up being a slow but massive purge of static namesā¦ Most of which I agree, were just taking the piss and probably should have been removed soonerā¦
But it is sad that the purge took out names that were reasonable but āwrongā.
Huhā¦ TG always said that their names were moth jokesā¦ I donāt think i ever saw one with a Latin name thereā¦
I meanā¦ its something I cant argue against butā¦ my point still stands a little seeing as thereās no in universe reason stated so far
Mm. I code dived a little for bee name list at Rukoās request to either replace or weed out names (they are fineā¦ its just notā¦ meā¦)
Probably my bad that I didnāt check TG branch thoā¦
Expecting TG wiki to be comprehensive was a mistakeā¦
For the sake of being different and the existing random names were a very poor attempt at fake latin. Naming policy was formed around the random names which already existed, with additional conventions already in use tacked on.
That said, this is going to be adopted into the naming policy now, although not precisely as you worded it.
As usual admin discretion may still apply to some names. Iād certainly hope I donāt need to explicitly forbid someone from being Holocaust the nazi moth.
The two forbidden words may expand, but those are the two that are the most on-the-nose and just make for a real lack of originality.