I think it was pretty obvious you weren’t enslaved to me since I let you go off on your own the instance we were out of science and I think I even said you were free to go around the station and hug people, plus if anyone was following some weird form of rp it was me and my obsession with the Dave the Gondola and I dont even believe I asked you to do anything really other then perhaps follow me once or twice
the ic text told me i was enslaved to you, so once you asked me to tell you who to kill i had to say it in never instance you told me ‘‘you are free to do what ever you want’’ so basicly i was just free to walk and give hugs but i was still your slave.
I don’t think your forced to pick a target if I ask you to who to kill, plus I believe you pointed out the first of our combined victims and when I asked you if you wanted this person dead and if hugging me was the answer to that question you proceeded to hug me several more times and point at the chemist several times as he tried to move away from your pointing and again the only way I can defend my logic was that in the rp and in the station I bascially treated Dave the true Gondola like a god way before he became sentient, it was like if Ian had become sentient for me and so I got way to carried away when you basically ordered me to kill the chemist I even double checked with you, though I dont think the chemist died I think I just mortally wounded him and left him as you watched
you asked me if he was bad ii told you yes because he was killing the mime i responded with the truth
You didn’t reply with that he was killing the mime since you know you couldn’t talk as a gondola, I had no clue why you wanted him dead other then because you wanted it
I understand My actions were really really really fucking dumb but I got way to carried away and ecstatic when I received the first pet gondola I ever had so I gave him sentience and let him be free and well this situation has happened
you asked me if he was bad and the only way to comunicate was by hugging so what i followed rp rules and obeyed
moving on to the rest of the deaths, to be in all honesty im not sure how many I was with when you ordered peoples deaths since you knew that your pointing basically meant that person was to be killed and you had gotten a cult afterwards (I dont know how you got a guy with a flamethrower to worship you I only worshipped you because It was like my christmas wish come early) I believe the main deaths I participated in were in the escape shuttle, the medbay and the library but my memory is dogshit so I cant remember what happened exactly, but Im pretty sure not all if any of the people you pointed at were evil or antag
only like 5 or 6 people died because of that and one with the welder was pretty valid if you ask me the others with their weapons were too but that one was obvious
my cult was made of 3people and anyone that followed your orders since you followed mine idk y tho i was the slave…
In all honesty I dont think you were the slave at all, I didn’t see you as a slave, I dont think your cult did and im pretty sure I had no hand in ordering you to point at the people who hurt you other then the chemist and maybe that guy in the library and that engineer that attacked both of us on the escape shuttle (which I dont know if it was one engineer or two since it got really chaotic to the end because someone welder bombed the command door of the shuttle I believe)
Its not about feelings or external knowledge its about ic
yeah and a golem is not a slave anymore if he is freed by his master the same I believe applies to sentients and Im pretty sure that I did not order you around or boss you around at all other then with the first chemist which was more you bossing me around since you wanted me to kill the chemist because you thought he killed the mime and again I let you go off on your own after leaving science and again I said that you were free to walk around the station and hug people
*cant reply anymore out of replies for today, but you could have gone about it differently, like for example pulling me back when I had began my attack on the chemist or pointing to the sec officer that was with us in chemistry and pointing to the chemist so the sec officer might get the memo you wanted the chemist arrested, you didnt have to hug me but you did so repeatedly
**and I again will mention that my actions were acoustic of me and I apologise for them profusely, I got caught up in the excitement of having a pet gondola and then I got ecstatic when I found out I could make it sentient that I lost a grip on my duties as captain and basically went around protecting an immortal gondola, I will voluntarily take a request of things from admin bans along with my current ban since I would rather not have a similar situation like this occur ever again for my sanity and the sanity of the admins and the crew
edit:3: Im just also going to say for anyone whos interested in looking at this ban appeal that it’s far more complex then it first looks…which is partially my fault, but its not just a weakass gondola as per usual it gets a lot more complex and weird fast
ii could never tell you to not kill him i wanted you to flash him and stop him at first but you told me hug me if you want me to kill him, tbh i wanted him to stop killing the mime.
How the fuck can any admin justify this ban?
How petty do you have to be to ban a fucking gondola who can’t talk or do anything?
Why is the default for this game to just ban people wantonly and randomly? Rue, do you think you made the game a better environment by banning a sentient Gondola who can’t do shit but emote and point?
What rule did he even break? Why do you think this is okay in any fashion? Literally shit like this makes every admin look horrible.
i used my gondola propaganda and superpowers to implant one of my hair strings into the captains and some other dudes heads making them completely catatonic and mindcontrolled by me at the press of a button, so i pretty much had a cult of humans that were infact me, killing people that attacked me, nice code bee has i love this new antags.
So this is the appeal crack was talking about on the discord…
Yeah this is pretty dumb, at most they guy deserves a slap on the cheeks but this 100% on the captain for being really naive.
I honestly do not know if I am supposed to teach them about morality, and what you should and shouldn’t do, I want to be a mentor but I ain’t no one’s daddy.
Why do I have to take any responsibility for the actions of others? If I was an antag and asked a greytide to steal HoS gun that would’ve been on him, beacuse he did it, not on me that instigated the action. On the other hand if I had brainwashed him, it would then follow rp rules and he would be clear, but ‘‘telling’’ someone to kill someone else does not qualify you to be banned(in my opinion and many others as I can see), it only grants the slap on who actually did it.
I do not think this ban was deserved at all, but Rue I, on the Mule bot thing, took all responsibility, because yes, I went out of my way to actually directly help a pAI kill other people. But if other staff members can actually agree on keeping me banned, then keep the ban, since it is your job to keep this server up with running laws, and I understand that.
Aigh, liftin’ the ban after talkin’ with councilmins 'n admins alike.